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[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uh, no, without socialization you still are aware of things, you just don’t have words for them or anything. You can still feel pain and hunger and suffering

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any animal can feel pain and hunger and suffering. That's sentience.

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s my point, lol, humans are animals, genetically creating living brain tissue is probably going to great conscious beings at some point

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sentience does not guarantee "consciousness." Parrots, ravens, and dolphins are (probably) not humans. Humans are "conscious" due to the ways we interact with the world. If you grow brain tissue and deprive it of the human experience then it shouldn't end up a human. But I get the precaution.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Consciousness is merely what comes after the transformation of quantity into quality. There's a continuity in the development of the system of sentience, and this remains stable only up to the point of discontinuity, which indicates its transition from the quantity of sentience into a new quality i.e. sapience.

I doubt they'll grow it in a lab with little pieces of brain tissue, but there is a point where that happens.

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think dolphins don't have consciousness?

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I meant sapience I guess