this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2024
75 points (100.0% liked)
World News
23070 readers
6 users here now
Breaking news from around the world.
News that is American but has an international facet may also be posted here.
Guidelines for submissions:
- Where possible, post the original source of information.
- If there is a paywall, you can use alternative sources or provide an archive.today, 12ft.io, etc. link in the body.
- Do not editorialize titles. Preserve the original title when possible; edits for clarity are fine.
- Do not post ragebait or shock stories. These will be removed.
- Do not post tabloid or blogspam stories. These will be removed.
- Social media should be a source of last resort.
These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.
For US News, see the US News community.
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I don't know the percentage.
You sounded like you were saying that Palestinian grievances were reaching back 70 years ago. My point was that there are large numbers of Palestinians who have much more recent grievances than 70 years -- like dead relatives of all ages, or lost homes, within their lifetime. What percent of them have that, I have no idea, and I'm genuinely curious what you think the percentage is. But honestly the point wasn't needing to dig up an exact number, 4% or 20% or 50% or whatever. Any of those is too many, and you seem to define Palestinian retribution for it as "terrorism" while Israeli retribution is defined as "defense."
Which all stem from that original conflict from 1947. A wave of hatred against the Jews who took their country, which spawned more violence, not all of it balanced, which spawns more terrorism, which spawns more violence, until we get to today.
He's doing the classic anti de-colonization argument of, "well sure we got here illegally, but it would be mean to kick us out now, you'd basically be 'colonizing' us in reverse!"
It's like a home invader saying they chased you out, so they live there now, and now it's you invading their home!
And then of course calling 70 years "ancient history" LMFAO. Guess my dad is "ancient history"!
Extremely true - but even that aside, if it really was as long ago as 70 years, it wouldn’t be the pressing ongoing issue that it is.
There are Palestinians who lost their homes forever, and Israelis who ignored the UN telling them stop breaking international law, this week and last week and the week before that.