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ICE is a fascist organization that serves no purpose other than terrorizing migrants. Anyone who funds them is also a fascist. There's not overcrowding because of a lack of means, it's because that's explicitly what ICE (and right-wingers) want; human suffering as a deterrent.
The crisis at the border is manufacturered by the right (both democrats and republicans). There is only a crisis in so far as they started treating migrants as if they were terrorists. The way to end the crisis is to be less fascist, not more.
Democrats are pushing extremely far right legislation. They're not trying to make legal migration more orderly, they're trying to "crackdown" same as the GOP. It's why Biden rolled back very few if any of Trump's insane policies; they're both deeply racist.
True dat
Debatable but yeah you could make a pretty strong case. Certainly that's one of their core missions if not the core mission.
You fund them, through taxes, if you live in the US
Oh wait, you might say, that's different because I don't really have a choice because of etc etc
How does it feel funding a fascist organization?
Citation needed
Are you suggesting that there are empty ICE detention facilities somewhere, that aren't holding any migrants so that they can be deliberately put into only a few of them?
Or that they're all full and there is money to build more / staff more that's just not being touched on purpose, because ICE cares so much about being cruel that they're forgoing hiring more people and adding more hours just so they can run a smaller operation?
They don't really have a shortage of ways to be cruel, even if there were no overcrowding.
This all sounds like all assertion no citation, to me.
Actually family separation (rather starting a task force to find the families of the separated kids) was one of the first reversals of Trump's policies that Biden did but there are a whole bunch of them. The separation was already stopped because it was too horrifying even for US immigration authorities, but the kids were still in custody with no effort to give them back to their parents until Biden. It was like one of his first things he did.
No idea why you're so committed to rocking back and forth chanting to yourself, Biden's a bad man, Biden's a bad man, Biden's a bad man. You can talk about Gaza and find no shortage of terrible things he did; you don't have to react to something factual by just starting to chant it again in every case.
It is undesirable that politicians use our tax money this way, yes. This is a pretty dumb attempt at a semantic "gotcha" given that I'm here literally criticizing the Democrats for helping fund ICE.
Yes. They are my tax dollars. No, I do not want them spent that way. The Democrats do want to spend them on fascist shit. Do you understand how that works? How not supporting a thing is not the same as supporting it?
Conservative post-truth bullshit has really scrambled people's brains.
No, I'm suggesting that the entire idea behind the mass detainment is false and cruel, that it doesn't matter how much money you give ICE they will not use it to try to fix the problem that they have intentionally created because they are a racist organization created explicitly to brutalize brown immigrants and migrants.
Like, your fascist brain can't even wrap itself around the fact that maybe there's some other reality here besides the one right-wingers have been portraying for the past twenty years.
Your rhetoric is quite literally indistinguishable from that of a MAGA supporter.
My point is that whether you say you "want" to support it or not, you are.
Similarly, whether or not Biden "wants" to support it, he's embedded in a system that sometimes might do things he doesn't want. In particular, on immigration, a lot of it is in the hands of people in congress who are explicitly malicious.
I'm not trying to excuse him for anything, and he's obviously in a better position to influence the system than you are. But, just like you not wanting your tax dollars to fund something you don't want doesn't really change whether it happens (and so, you are funding a fascist organization), Biden wanting the immigration policy to be one way or another doesn't really mean anything if congress is setting rules that he doesn't want.
I don't think it's a secret that the Republicans have been pushing for more explicit cruelty in our system and Biden has been compromising with them in order to try to accomplish other things (some of which are good things for people), even knowing that some of what comes in might be bad, in the same way that you might pay your taxes even knowing that some of what it's funding is bad.
Surely makes sense? Maybe not, IDK; apparently my brain is scrambled. But to me the analogy seemed to be pretty understandable.
You caught me man. If there's one thing that's a common thread in all of my comments it's love for the right-wing reality and MAGA style rhetoric. Go back and read my comments about ICE and imagine them on Truth Social, and they'd fit right in.