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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Illinois has some fairly strict gun laws... which is why so many guns used in crimes there come from all the states surrounding it. So I ask... do Arizona, Utah, and Nevada have these taxes as well?

I'm not against gun control, but it seems to me that a state level fix ain't it.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the US, especially in this polarised climate, the vast majority of changes to law start with one state, and then another, and then another until slowly it gets adopted around the country.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

States have long been called "laboratories of democracy" for exactly this reason. I'd actually argue that the current climate calcifies the process of policy experimentation in states and among them.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

california is big. It may work better than other places, but a fed licensing program would be ideal

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not against gun control, but it seems to me that a state level fix ain't it.

Views like this are why nothing gets done. Starting small is better than doing nothing at all.

It's hard to change things for the whole country. It's a lot easier to change things just in one state and observe the effects. If the changes work, other states may choose to do the same thing.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Of course, it's illegal for an FFL to sell a handgun to anyone with an out of state license unless they ship it to an FFL in the person's home state for the NICs check and to make sure it complies with local laws. As for rifles, while there is no federal requirement stating the same, you'd be very hard pressed to find an FFL that is going to sell one to a person with an IL license unless it goes through the same system, all FFLs especially in border states know IL laws and are obviously hesitant to run afoul of them, iirc there is actually a local IL statute prohibiting the buying of long guns out of state without sending them through an FFL (like federally for pistols but for IL specifically with the long guns too) in it's own that the neighboring FFLs would get in trouble with the ATF for violating, not to mention FOID and standard capacity mag bans

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is the case for basically every issue, yeah, this is generally why telling people to start with politics at the local level isn't really a great suggestion for most people.

You can't fund inter-city trains at the local level, really, that has to be done at the state level at the very least, usually in a state like california, only, and usually it has to be done with federal funding. If you don't have inter-city trains or public transit, then it's hard to make a walkable city. Basically what I'm saying is that it's not atomizable, it has to be integrated with the rest of the network, which is why even the best US cities are pretty car-centric.

This is true for a litany of other political issues besides just public transit.