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Former democratic party activists are organizing Muslims and Arab-Americans in Swing states to vote against Biden with the demand that he support a ceasefire in Gaza.

I'll allow them a little bit of electoralism this time.

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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

I can agree Joe is a genocider and still vote for him instead of trump*.

Trump is happy to apply his genocidal ideals to his own countrymen. Biden, less so - mostly directed outward/foreign. If my vote has influence on this matter, even slightly, who am I going to choose?

Moreover, I'm not pretending my vote is some sacred gift I can only give to the most perfect candidate. Rather, I am happy if my trash vote can negate a even more-trash vote.

* I predict being the_dunk_tank material and I accept my fate.

Also I want to say, I am really trying to understand this. even if I say wierd/bad faith/something stuff it's an accident and I want to understand the point of view of "anti electoralism" -- if that's the right term.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I want to understand the point of view of "anti electoralism" -- if that's the right term.

That's relatively straightforward. Elections are a distraction, they redirect energy into a form the political order can digest without changing. The more you invest in them the less you are putting into alternatives that are more useful. Vote, if you want, it might do marginal good in an infinitesimal scale, but agonizing over voting is playing into a system that exists to funnel all your energy into itself.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Vote, if you want, it might do marginal good in an infinitesimal scale, but agonizing over voting is playing into a system that exists to funnel all your energy into itself.

I guess this is where I'm lost. They mail me ballots, I fill them out and mail them back. It's almost the least I can do. If every person opposed to fascism did the same, I believe fascism's encroachment would be slowed.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

I don't know what you mean. Democrats keep winning by the numbers. Fascism is still encroaching. It's been encroaching my entire life, and Republicans have won the popular vote once in that time. People do vote. And this still happens.

I'm not telling you not to, I keep saying it's fine to do if you feel like it. So is watching a movie or getting a snack at 3 in the morning. You do you. But don't act like it's fixing anything. It clearly isn't. That's why you get to keep doing it.

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