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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Bethesda has majorly diluted the already-potentially-liberal criticism of capitalism inherent to Fallout by making it consoomer treat slop

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Unfortunately, hard agree.

The originals were never overtly Socialist, they just criticized the worst of American liberalism.

New Vegas at least sympathetically showcases Syndicalists, cooperatives, and Anarchists, but never presents a truly Leftist solution beyond a doomer and ill-thought out Anarchist ending. No genuinely revolutionary solutions are available.

In Bethesda's hands, however, all critique is defanged and at least as much anti-Socialism is added. There are largely no sympathetic Socialist factions and Capitalism is somehow the status quo even in minor settlements.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

No genuinely revolutionary solutions are available.

Peopld are always saying this like it's a gotcha for Fallout being a liberalism, but New Vegas wouldn't have stuck and been so discussionworthy, would have had a harder time exploring the ins and outs of the shameful excuses for political systems it does, if it just had a "correct" option. Arguably the entire point of NV in particular is a tale about how doomed we all are without leftism. Would the game he better if it just had an objectively correct solution?

Also also I don't really take Wild Card to be "anarchist", more a refusal to participate and vow to do as much damage to all contenders as possible. Least bad given the material conditions.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the take I’ve been defending the entire time for FO. I have always believed that if there is no “correct” (socialist, Communist, anarchist) ending for the main story of a fallout game then it should focus on the failures of a world without leftism and be open about why that is. That is the entire point of war never changing.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"It's said war - war never changes. Men do, through the roads they walk. And this road... has reached its end." -Ulysses

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Technically the Ending Slide narrator.

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