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Iunno about anyone else, but there's no such thing as circumstances extreme enough to make me think collaboration is a good idea.
so like what do you mean by collaborating? I always think of it like if we both show up at a protest, cooperate in little ways, but don't actually plan anything out beforehand or give them any legitimacy, just don't fight them if your immediate goal isn't conflicting in the moment
Honestly, I don't even want them around at the same protests as me, because suddenly, that's our names lashing together. Exactly why I have such animus towards Rage Against the War Machine; you think I want to be lending the fuckin Mises Caucus legitimacy through 'allying with them' like some of our 'comrades' would see done?
I feel like the problem with rage against the war machine is they’re explicitly putting out shit saying to work with them, I more mean like with like within an org’s interneal communications to tell its members to focus on its main enemy during protest, pigs, rather than fighting with libertarians who might show up
It doesn't make too much sense within the imperial core. Not that this stops the 'broad church', 'left unity' types. But e.g. historically, under colonialism, it could make sense for revolutionaries to side with the national bourgeoisie against the colonialists and the compradors. We see something similar in Russia, with the communist party supporting Putin's government because they both see the US imperialists as a common enemy. Maybe that's not a great example, as I'm unsure how revolutionary the Russian communist party is. Essentially, I think I mean that collaboration may be workable if there's a bigger threat.
Would the KMT and Mao uniting to prevent genocide by the Japanese qualify?
History would say it worked; but were it me in that position, my hypervigilance would be running full tilt, dawn to dusk, expecting a knifing at the first opportunity. You see why I don't put myself in those situations if I can help it; I do not trust reactionaries like that. Not even for temporary alliance.
The OG Bolsheviks worked with reactionary trade unions and formerly genocidal Tsarist officers that committed anti-semitic pograms against Jewish people, in order to overthrow the monarchy.