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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

burning a bunch of police cars that I as a taxpayer have to replace

luau is cool and good, it demonstrates oppressive power as something that can be weakened and destroyed, it follows through on a form of deterrence, and we shouldn't be yielding to the assumption that the police will stay inexorably lodged in place.

It's a legitimate target and a successful action, even though it's a pity they had to be sectarian about it- sectarianism, along with having an identifiable style/voice, is bad opsec.

Seriously, what you said is the same sort of thing that sideliners were saying in 2020. "What are they accomplishing by smashing and burning stuff, we're all collectively going to have to pay to replace it anyway, they're practically smashing MY car/window"

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I cannot believe somebody is condemning burning police cars lmao. Let alone that they're trying to frame it as "destroying tax payer funded property"

I got lectured the other day for being so arrogant I thought I knew everything when I said a revolution wasn't happening in this country because as soon as anybody actually did something it would be universally condemned.

Then two days later somebody actually does something and even this website is in agreement to condemn them for "destroying public property"

There's other comments saying the Portland protests fucked up by trying to take over the library and that was bad optics. Were getting really close to "only protest in the designated protest zones and then go home when asked"

Can't wait to see this revolution that doesn't harm any property or does anything that would make the media condemn them and doesn't inconvenience anybody.

By the way Biden just made some public comments calling these protests anti Semitic after saying hamas started this on the 7th

[–] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can't wait to see this revolution that doesn't harm any property or does anything that would make the media condemn them and doesn't inconvenience anybody.

Nobody is calling for that.

What they're calling for is for the organizing to make the property damage effective and bad press ineffective.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might as well call for a perpetual motion device while they're at it.

If they're concerning themselves with how the media that is specifically set up funded and maintained to discredit them will react they should team up with the libs saying they can't do anything because republicans will call them communists.

[–] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're talking past my point.

Yes we can't control what the media says and they'll always spread anti-communist bull shit. It's easier to spread our own propaganda to counter them when you have a well organized movement that can plan actions strategically.

Every movement that used terrorist tactics that ever achieved anything was still organized. The Viet Cong didn't do spontaneous terror.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The Viet Cong didn't do spontaneous terror.

John McCain is universally considered a war hero by liberals because of all the "terror" he endured as a poor innocent pow.

This is exactly what I mean the general public still thinks we "won" Vietnam and just got tired of fighting so we left.

Because that's exactly what the media is set up to do.

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