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they'll never get rich but they'll also never end up starving because they grew a cash crop that they couldn't eat. Xi is trying to make sure that no one in his country ever goes hungry. I wish we had leaders in the usa that cared as much about that.
How do you know that? People in China go hungry all the time. Official poverty rates might've been reduced significantly, but the poverty line in China is much less livable than the poverty line in America. If you make $2.31 a day in China, you're not technically in poverty!
Not to mention similar homelessness rates to America
rice farmers complaining about profits are definitely not going hungry
poverty in china nowadays is pensioner age old people whos kids have left for the cities for better economic opportunities because their village is located inside a literal cliff 18 hours and a mule ride from civilization and the only viable occupation there is subsistence barley farmer/part-time chicken keeper
poverty alleviation isn't about making sure these people can turn a profit, it's about relocating them to places where they can be made less hostile to the concepts of electricity and running water, because otherwise they would just be content to stay inside their cliff and head into town once a year to collect their poverty check/trade in their moonshine for ibuprofen
The poverty lines are calculated using the same formulas to determine livability for each country. Everybody should theoretically have a somewhat similar standard of living at the poverty line across countries
The poverty line for USA is a 14500 salary. 80% of Americans live in a city. How many cities in USA exist where you can live well on a 14500 salary? Not to mention a single healthcare incident will instantly wipe out whatever scraps you can save off a 14500 salary
People who make 2.3USD a day in China live in a place where it is possible to live on that cheap salary
Can you link a source? The most recent data I found dates back to 2011
https://data.oecd.org/conversion/purchasing-power-parities-ppp.htm
Purchasing power parity of China is 4.022. So let's look at the overall poverty line of $2.30 in China. That would be equalivent to $9.25 a day in America, or $3,376 a year.
China makes their poverty rates appear so low by making their poverty line absolutely ridiculous and actually much lower than comparable countries.
Of course I couldn't any PPP rates for just rural China (although it's pretty obvious $3,376 isn't going to suddenly becoming $30,000 because it's rural), but see this:
29% of people who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor?
I said that amount is livable in China. That study is about people's feelings. Hardly related
Not to mention I work in Silicon Valley as a software engineer and it's literally common for people here to be making 200-400k to complain about being poor and not saving much all the time
How many people living in the Midwest or the south on a 20k salary do you think would feel subjectively poor?
Conveniently ignoring the fact a $3.3k salary isn't livable anywhere in America.
Spoiled middle class westerners complaining about being poor is totally different LMAO. Americans will complain about being poor when living in a decent house in suburb, being poor is seen totally different in 2nd and 3rd world countries that are, yknow, struggling much moreso.
Well that's why the American poverty line has been calculated to be 14500
14500 is the poverty line in America and 845 is the poverty line in China
PPP isn't a perfect comparison between every single combination of all 200 countries in the entire world
But the poverty line is specifically calculated for every single country
you didn't say anything about the rates of hunger in China. Those people that are in poverty still don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from
Give me a break. Stop lying. 35 million Chinese go hungry.
maybe this is why they're focusing on growing food crops
China, state whose economic decision you disagree with, hunger rate of 2.50% in a country of 1 billion people.
America, state whose free market approach to food security you generally agree with, hunger rate of 10% in a country with 1/3 the population.
2.5% is the hunger rate of China according to your source. So I decided to look up the US and see how it compares. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-security-and-nutrition-assistance/
10% or in other words china is currently 4x better at feeding the hungry than the US is. 10% of 300+million is also around 30+million, so a comparable number but just out of an incomparably smaller population.
So you, following the advice of people who cannot get hunger below 10%, in a country with enough food waste to solve the problem, think that people on the other side of the world, whose hunger problem is only a quarter of your neighbors, should fix their hunger by growing LESS FOOD in favor of cash crops? Is that correct?
If I'm misrepresenting you please let me know
Whataboutism.
That isnt whataboutism, it is a comparison.
An unnecessary comparison. I'm talking about 1 in 40 Chinese people facing hunger, this has absolutely nothing to do with America.
It does because you're claiming that the system that America is the best example of: letting the free market run food security, is superior to what China is doing. This is an incorrect statement as proven by statistics.
Putting words in my mouth.
Also you used a different metric from the metric I used. China and America have the exact same (2.5%) hunger rate using the same source. Typical Hexbear lying.
What is this, if not support for a more laissez faire approach?
What is (33 million divided by 330 million) multiplied by 100?
You're using a different source than I used. Look at the US hunger rate under the same definition as the China hunger rate. Different sources have looser ways of defining hunger.
The united states government has a looser way of defining hunger in their own country than a shady investment website that doesnt even have https? Didn't they teach you how to choose reliable sources of information in highschool?
You're being facetious: How do you expect underpaid, overworked farmers to turn a profit and provide for their families if you're making them grow a bunch of dirt cheap rice?
There is no other way to interpret this comment other than demanding the farmer(s) sell the product of their choice at the market, favoring the individual over the collective here.
Because the PRC is still a developing country, and their hunter rate was much worse in the past, that means (pretending your lies and misdirection are real) they are improving to close the gap and ensure food security.
Again, all of your posts boil down to:
The government could make them grow green rice but give them extra money to make up for it. Farmers deserve fair pay. Of course, the millionaires and billionaires of the CCP wouldn't want that.
Source?