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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

mesa and linux is also "uber projects" i think in certains canes you can't run away from them, systemd is the same, but for privilegiated processes that need to be well integrated for security reasons

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

While I agree that sometimes Uber projects happen, for efficiency or security reasons, I don't think that Mesa is a good example as they have a scope (implement the OpenGL/Vulkan API) and stick to it.

Systemd is already confusing because of it referencing two different projects, and the overarching systemd projects scope just increases on a regular basis without what appears to external observers as a plan.

[–] voracread@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Is journald still binary? That alone made me turn away. I am using PCLinuxOS hence am systemd free. Stopped reading up on it.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is journald still binary? That alone made me turn away.

Yes, unreadable with a text editor. Meaning that if you have a computer problem and journald or systemd is broken you have can't consult the log files, unless you did install rsyslog or sometimes before that. Meanwhile by default journald will eat a few GBs of disk space soon.

[–] voracread@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compared to this what is the advantage of binary form? I thought log files being text was a no brainer.

[–] uiiiq@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Storage efficiency, faster queries, more metadata, unified format, etc. If your host breaks, you can download the journals and open then elsewhere. Also, there is nothing stopping you from configuring it to output to a file.

[–] voracread@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Open them elsewhere is also true for text files I guess.

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