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“Why Republicans Are on the Verge of Fistfights” Can’t we all just get along? (www.politico.com)

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This is not opinion or leftist. It’s news about fighting in the party, which is factual, recent, and on-topic.

Removal of this post is admitting that this sub is only about being a safe space for conservatives to circle-jerk while ignoring reality.

I encourage a discussion about the recent conflicts inside the party, how that might impact the party moving forward, and what can be done to prevent this divide.

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean this with no insult. You’re in the wrong party if you want any of those things. And I’m curious, what DO you like about the Republican Party today, and don’t say taxes.

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You must be really old if you can recall a time when democrats discriminated against people based on race. ;-) Parties change. The modern GOP is all about big government, control of people, censorship, and racism.

But, your answer said all I need to know about your actual position.

Thanks

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which democratic policies are you thinking of that discriminate based on race?

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are the major Republican talking points? Trans? Drag? It’s like you’re not being told what the GQP is actually.

Also, that article is labeled opinion, and those aren’t facts.

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, unless you’re extremely wealthy, the Republican Party has not lowered taxes for the middle class in the past 20 years or so. Obviously, there is a lot to consider like tax credits, etc. But that blanket statement of “Republicans lower taxes “is not entirely accurate.

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

300-500k is not middle class.

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You might consider updating your knowledge beyond what is immediately in front of you.

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[–] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You know that slavery, kkk we’re all democrat things and still are

According to whom? Both of these things have always been far right ideologies. Are you forgetting the two main parties switched in name a century ago?

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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The parties never switched. That’s a myth.

It objectively is not a myth.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/07/14/331298996/why-did-black-voters-flee-the-republican-party-in-the-1960s

https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

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[+] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why were many of the democrats that voted against the civil rights acts still representing the house and Senate in the 80’s and 90’s?

Why did renouned member of the KKK Robert Byrd serve until his death in 2010?

Why was segregationist Joe Biden chosen as as a democrat nominee for the presidential election?

Because the switch wasn't instantaneous, nor affiliation/group based. Individuals themselves changed their thoughts and party affiliation, not just party affiliation.

When ever you claim the parties switched you’ll find racists democrats still representing the party.

The KKK literally, currently supports GOP candidates. Trump was caught doing housing segregation. The GOP regularly gerrymanders to reduce the power of black voters. The GOP regularly shuts down voting places in black neighborhoods to keep voting lines long. White nationalists are waving the flag of Trump.

The democratic party is a shit show. But the GOP is a god damn dumpster fire. Our political system regularly elects racist old men, on both sides. What did you expect?

At least on my side of the line there ain't white nationalists. That's plenty for me.

PRRI also asked respondents whether they believed that, “It always makes the country better when all Americans speak up and protest unfair treatment by government.” Then, it asked the same question, but substituted “Black Americans” for “all Americans.” Democrats made no distinction between the two questions: 71 percent answered Yes to both. Among Republicans, however, 49 percent believed it made the country better when all Americans spoke up and protested unfair governmental treatment, but just 24 percent believed it when Black Americans spoke up and protested. Among Republicans whose most trusted news source is Fox News, the gap was 47 percent Yes for all Americans, and a bare 10 percent for Blacks.

https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/how-racist-are-republicans-very/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-american-prospect/

But somehow democrats are the ones that are racist.

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[+] jimbolauski@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for proving my point.

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