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I like how you refer to the fact most Taiwanese people want to either retain the current situation or gain further independence as a "gig". Strong tankie vibes.
I like you pretend to speak for Taiwanese people without having a clue about internal politics of Taiwan and the effect of influence US there via things like NED. 🤡
I’m just telling you what polls of the Taiwanese population are indicating, however you don’t seem at all interested in that, because you’d rather send in the tanks.
The polls of the Taiwanese population are indicating that US backed DPP is crashing while KMT that wants to repatriate is polling high, however you don’t seem at all interested in that, because you’re a shill for the empire.
Check again, genius. Also, here's a poll stating that the majority of Taiwanese are against the "one China two policy" and are in favor of the status quo, meaning that KMT approval doesn't necessarily mean supporting repatriating.
Also, I don't understand why you would call the US an empire, while also shilling for the actual emperor who is now serving his third term, which btw was originally against their own constitution.
Well I guess we'll just see what happens when KMT gets into power won't we genius. Meanwhile, wait till you find out how long people like Merkel have been in power. I guess using your galaxy brain logic, Germany is a dictatorship. 😂
No, what kind of galaxy brain do you have to think Germany and China is even remotely comparable?
Go back studying XiJinPing Thought, tankie. Your sacrifice is required - nay, obligated - for the party.
You're the one said that Xi having a third term means China is a dictatorship. I'm just pointing out that longer terms are pretty common in western democracies. I love how your comeback is to just spew nonsense. Really highlights the quality of your intellect there.
I also said that they changed their own constitution just to accommodate for it. Did Germany do that for Merkel? Also, do normal Chinese citizens get to vote for their leader? Cause as far as I know, they don't. Not even their People's Representative is elected by their own people. (Fun fact: there's a Taiwan representative in their Congress, which obviously wasn't elected by the Taiwanese people at all) There's not even a single choice outside of the CCP. You ignoring the huge elephant in the room that China is a one-party system, thinking Xi essentially voting himself in is remotely comparable to elections in Germany, and thinking that "third term=dictatorship" is the only thing I meant, really highlights the quality of your intellect here.
Countries change constitutions all the time, not sure why this is so significant. The point is that German constitution already allowed for this. Meanwhile, western style parliamentary democracy is just one implementation. If you think that's the only way democracy can work then you really need to educate yourself more. Having more parties doesn't make a country more democratic, the question is whose interests the parties represent. Chinese system is democratic centralism and it's clearly doing a hell of a lot better job representing the interests of the majority than any western system given that quality of life in China keeps improving while it's collapsing in the west. Claiming that Xi is essentially voting for himself is the height of comedy. The fact that you don't even know the basics of how political systems work really says everything I need to know. Bye.
Doing a good job representing the people? Do you really think the constant speech control on Chinese social media, the abundance of unfinished buildings, the Henan bank protests that is still unresolved since last year, the multiple law enforcement divisions on urban management, agriculture, and recently culture which has multiple controversies already, is China "improving"? Let's not forget that there are now even more people willing to risk their lives to walk across Mexico to migrate to the US, while the higher officials already have their families migrated to other countries. Says alot about how well their country is doing.
You taking what they say at face value and don't do basic investigation on what they actually do internally just shows how unqualified you are discussing Chinese politics.
Nobody says China is perfect, and you can find a whole bunch of problems in any country. However, anybody with a couple of brain cells to bang together understands that it's the overall trends you have to look at.
China lifter over 800 million people out of poverty. Not only that, but it's pretty much the only place in a world where any meaningful poverty reduction is happening. If we take China out of the equation poverty actually increased in real terms:
Majority of Chinese students who study abroad end up returning to China. Over 1,400 scientists have now moved from US to China .
China also massively invests in infrastructure. They used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century, they built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade. 90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. Real wage (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it's the most populous country on the planet. Social mobility in China is also far higher than it is in US.
You taking what your DPP puppet regime says at face value and don’t do basic investigation on what they actually do internally just shows how unqualified you are discussing Chinese politics.
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I fail to understand why you think China lifting people out of poverty and infrastructure work has anything to do with what Taiwan needs right now. But okay, I'll bite. REALITY CHECK TIME.
Yet they are now facing a large wave of youth unemployment at 20.8% and is looking to get even worse. People are also not allowed to talk about poverty online, as a recent video on Chinese social media showing what 100RMB, the monthly pension and the only income one elderly has, could buy was taken down.
Your linked article writes about privileged kids being able to study abroad but chose to go back to China due to cultural differences, work, family, or racism in America, has nothing to do with Chinese risking their lives to cross Mexico on foot to flee to America for a better life. In fact, the number of Chinese seeking asylum has shot up since Xi took power.
Also, this. The fact is the wealthy elites are also choosing to migrate to other countries despite opportunities at home. "反美是工作，赴美是生活", meaning "It's a job to oppose the US, but it's life to go to the US", is a criticism quote which is from a Chinese US-opposer who eventually also bought property in the US, that pretty much every Chinese and their dog jokes about now.
Sure. That's probably the thing that a communist dictatorship country can do best, I'll give them that. But again, what the fuck does that have anything to do with Taiwan and what it needs now? Last I heard, Taiwan is not a developing country, China is. Or at least that's what they demand they should be classified as while touting their record low of poverty rates.
HUGE ASTERISK HERE. In China, the land is owned by the government. Your home ownership is perpetual. However, the ownership of the land that your home sits on is leased by the government. Buildings for living purpose has a lease of 70 years, while factories and business purpose buildings have less. And those years include the time constructing the apartment, so the actual usable years are even less. Although their law stats that you could choose to continue the lease after 70 years, the government also has the right to take it back. Now, I haven't heard about any reports of related disputes just yet, but no one except the CCP knows what would happen 30 years from now.
China lifting people out of poverty has to do with demonstrating that Chinese government does in fact work in the interest of the majority, which is the actual definition of democracy.
These tropes are as old as time, and yet what we see in practice is that poverty is being consistently eliminated and the quality of life continues to improve for the majority of the people.
I do have to give you props for cherry picking here. Pretending that there is some kind of flood of poor people who somehow get to Mexico and then cross over to US is really a new angle.
Last I heard Taiwan isn't a country as far as UN is concerned, but a renegade province of China. And claiming that Taiwan is developed is pretty funny. Taiwan doesn't even have any energy production of its own https://archive.is/0WnEV 😂
While you're clearly trying to make this out as some nefarious thing, this is actually a very good thing as it prevent land being hoarded by rich parasites the way it is in the west.