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Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.

Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo

Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting

Deeply unserious people

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

In general this is something I notice among the western left. They call themselves communists, but actually hate and disagree with the social and economic policies that every single AES country led by a communist or socialist party has tried to implement or actually implemented. I notice it a bit on hexbear too. AES countries are actually attempting to build an equitable society, as a country is first and foremost a society. This means actually wielding political power and making controversial decisions. And even when the western left and an AES state agree on a policy, the western left will still find a way to say the very policy they agree with is actually bad all of a sudden. See the comments on Cuba's family code.

Also for those in the West who critise the economic systems of AES states, you will have to take the very same steps as these AES countries on the long road to socialism if you plan to seize state power.

Nevertheless, the establishment of a state capitalist regime is unavoidable, and will remain so everywhere. The developed capitalist countries themselves will not be able to enter a socialist path (which is not on the visible agenda today) without passing through this first stage. It is the preliminary phase in the potential commitment of any society to liberating itself from historical capitalism on the long route to socialism/communism. Socialization and reorganization of the economic system at all levels, from the firm (the elementary unit) to the nation and the world, require a lengthy struggle during an historical time period that cannot be foreshortened.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Pretty much every local communist group I've tried to be active in has this problem. They always have to sprinkle in something about Chinese or Soviet Imperialism, then (no surprise) tell us that Palestinians should join with Israel workers, and same for Ukrainian and Russians. No real understanding of anti imperialism and what forms it will take. Always finding a reason why we can't support any real concrete opposition to western hegemony.

One of these communist groups even told me that South Africa today is just as bad, if not worse, than when under Apartheid. And they also hated the Black Panthers.

So much work needs to be done in the West.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it's not personally identifying, what communist org(s) are you talking about that hated the BPP?

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am afraid to doxx myself if I say. I was a little afraid to even mention the above incident, but I'm probably being paranoid. I'll give hints, and just indirectly doxx myself lol.

They call themselves an anti revisionist Marxists Leninist group. They were maoist in the 60s. They worked with SDS in the 60s.

They then broke with China. One of the reasons they state was due to China's "elevation" of the Black Panther Party as the vanguard in the United States. I guess they were jealous. They also are really anti black nationalism, and just nationalism in general. They won't read Fanon. They complain about Palestinian flags at protests because of "nationalism".

Like I said in another reply, I didn't do the due diligence before joining - my mistake. It also discouraged me because it is either that group or a trotskyist group (sorry for sectarianism). So barren.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the details! Please don't feel any pressure to doxx yourself in any way! My curiosity is worth much less than your comfort and safety.

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