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I’ve gathered that Russia’s influence in the 2016 election in the USA was overblown. How much do we believe this to be the case in Slovakia? Smaller, closer target seems more likely to me. Trying to understand what is propaganda vs what is genuine.
Overblown based on what? Seems to me most people aren't even aware it happened, and it was close enough that it likely determined the outcome.
Maybe @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org was trying to state that a lot of countries/states might not need that much "outside help" in making bad choices. Russia probably plays a role, but there might be more factors.
The extreme lengths that Russia goes to in order to influence elections around the world but specifically including the 2016 election are well well documented. Cf the OP article.
The US can absolutely fuck up its own self governance without any outside assistance (probably actually better than most small eastern European states), but a super powerful source of outside assistance is definitely happening, in this case
@some_guy@lemmy.world for telling what is and isn't propaganda, I recommend the RV Jones approach: Just remove from your awareness all the stuff that when you hold it up to the light and look closely, is self contradictory or obvious bullshit (which in my examinations definitely includes all the "2016 wasn't Russia" material I have seen). Everything that remains, in practice usually winds up being pretty coherent and consistent.