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For at least ten years, the Chinese Communist Party has been abducting its overseas citizens on EU territory and forcibly returning them to China - violating the rule of law and public security in Europe - a new report finds.

Full report: https://safeguarddefenders.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Chasing%20Fox%20Hunt.pdf

Archived version: https://archive.ph/lEYCn

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[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are you getting this nonsense from?

The law. Yes, abduction and kidnapping are only possible when they are done illegally. Illegality is a crucial part of what those terms mean.

You're essentially making the libertarian "tax is theft" argument: it would be criminal if I did it to you, so it must be criminal when the government does it to you.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Illegality is a crucial part of what those terms mean.

No dude, it isn't. At all. You literally have it backwards. The law uses these terms because they are English terms with meanings. The law doesn't give them their meanings.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non-legal definitions of those terms also imply illegality. There is no legal way to kidnap someone.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no legal way to kidnap someone.

There are a wide variety of legal ways to kidnap someone. Such as the one I described which happened to me.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How is this logic different from the article's? You're both calling a legal arrest you don't like "kidnapping."

See also: a libertarian saying "of course you can legally steal, it's called taxes!"

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you bootlicking? The US government doesn't define common English words and their usage, and it's very weird that you seem to think that the fact that they have control over the land means that they are incapable of committing violence against people. What the government goons I am describing did to me were acts of state-sanctioned violence in which I was taken under threat of physical harm to a location I did not want to go to and held against my will despite having done absolutely nothing to deserve violence being inflicted upon me. People with fucking souls call that abduction/kidnapping, where is your soul?

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you bootlicking?

Jesus Christ. Having a consistent definition of "kidnapping" is not bootlicking.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consistency is when you can't call an act of violence what it is if it's cops committing the act of violence

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you an anarchist? I'm not. Like every AES state, I think it's possible to have justifiable government actions. Governments have a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, so yeah, a cop making a legal arrest is not the same as me hitting a stranger over the head and stuffing them in a van.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not hitting a stranger over the head and stuffing them in a van. It's "an arrest." You can't call it hitting a stranger over the head and stuffing them in a van, because of who's doing it.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you an anarchist? I'm not.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

This isn't a theory discussion, it's a fucking linguistics discussion. You're insisting that the word "abduction" refers only to a legal term, which it does not. Obviously it does not. Idk what more to say.