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Schools in England and Wales using ‘gender toolkit’ risk being sued by parents
(www.theguardian.com)
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Why are we forcing people into "sides" if we know for a fact they can be erroneous?
That creates a privileged class for who their assignment is congruent with their conception of self (cisgender people)
alongside a disprivileged out group forced to navigate transitioning out of an assignment they never should have gotten (transgender people)
I do.
Why do programs have default settings if they're not the ideal settings for everyone?
As I said in my previous comment, why shouldn't the objective be to reach a point where transitioning is completely painless?
I don't think you can really compare screen resolution with the establishment of a disprivileged class that didn't exist
Why should a person need to transition? Why do cis people need or deserve the privileged status there being a default they adhere to grants them?
I beg to differ. Screen readers aren't enabled by default, and disabled people who need to access them often need the assistance of someone who can see the screen in order to enable them. Mainstream platforms such as Android are better about this (turning on the screen reader by holding both volume buttons down for 5 seconds), but even then people are required to know about the shortcut. I don't think anyone would argue we should remedy this by turning the screen reader on by default, no? You could ask whether to turn on the screen reader during first time device setup, I suppose, but this analogy falls apart somewhat when applied to newborn babies.
You have to call children something before they're old enough to understand what gender is. Pose the question to them at age five and whatever they tell you is their gender from there on out, but there needs to be something before then. Five years is a long time for someone to not have a name.
Are you describing ableism as an argument against the existence of privileged classes??
No??????
Of course privileged classes exist. I just described one and described a way to lessen the impact of its existence, since eliminating it entirely is completely impossible.
So too is the case with infants having names and genders.
You mean like not assigning people to classes we know can be incorrect they then would have to change?
what. is. your. alternative.
I swear you must not be reading my comments. How do you refer to a child for the first five years of their life if giving them a name, even a temporary one, is transphobic?
Not shoving people into boxes we know aren't accurate based on a 2 second glance at baby genitals.
Why is that even a thing you want to do?
How do you refer to a child for the first five years of their life if giving them a name, even a temporary one, is transphobic?
I notice first off you're conveniently ignoring how I have been referring to sex designations for the past several posts and instead exclusively focusing on my earlier statement about names.
Makes me doubt your faith, that.
I will broaden and ask why you think any imposition of a gender on a person who has not yet informed you what it is is laudable or appropriate, be that marker on a certificate or a gendered name?
BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE NOT STATED AN ALTERNATIVE!
not doing that, Jesus.
You: "The fact that society does this is a problem!"
Me: "Okay. What do you think we should do instead?"
You: "I refuse to answer this question"
Are you trolling?
Stop doing that. Christ on a cracker.
If I told you "kicking puppies is wrong" would you demand 'an alternative' to do instead?
Don't kick puppies.
Suppose you want your child to come inside and they haven't chosen their own name yet. What do you do?
Concede being trans is sinful?
Oh wait no, that's what you do.
Sweet fucking Lord. I already explained why I did that. I don't believe it is, for the record, and you shouldn't care what conservatives think is sinful either. Now stop digging through my post history for ad hominem attacks and state your fucking position.
I already did, and I don't feel you are arguing in good enough faith—having been willing to concede being trans "is sinful"—to address you in any deeper detail.
You jump on the name thing rather than seeing it as an outcrop of assigning sex and gender and then bitch about it in other threads using disingenuous descriptions that conflate the two but only address the later.