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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Communism is when gubberment do a fing

AND WHO OWNS THE GOVERNMENT UNDER COMMUNISM HMM? HMMMMMM?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm not sure that's the best argument as no one owns a capitalist government or a communist government. "The people" own the governments of both systems. The ultra rich influence the government, but no one owns any government.

I do tend to agree with the comment about "people who are power hungry seek positions of power." No matter what system you have you're going to have positions of leadership that have to exert some form of "power" over others and the worst people of any society are going to gravitate to those positions.

I suppose It's really a people problem more than a system problem though. :/

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I suppose It's really a people problem more than a system problem though. :/

No, it's a system problem. The worst abuses of power under communist regimes pale in comparison to the atrocities capitalist powers commit on a regular basis. Even if you took the Black Book of Communism at face value and assumed every bad thing that happened in the USSR or the PRC was the direct, intended result of the government it would not hold a candle to the British rule of India, the European colonization of the Americas, or the austerity-driven debt slavery of the global south under neocolonialism.

A few government officials taking bribes is not morally or logistically comparable to systematic chattel slavery or stealing the surplus labor value of billions.

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