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[–] zoe 1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

how about funding less retirement, enjoying life to the fullest then pulling the plug quickly before 60 ? its stupid to spend ur retirement savings on cancer drugs or whatever ..

[–] jadero@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Pulling the plug before 60? Where do you live that everyone over 60 is on death's door?

I'm reasonably well past that and there a whole lot of us and we're still going strong. I swam an open-water 10k at 63 and am planning another for my 70th. I'm working on breaking 4:30.

A neighbour finally stopped competitive cross country marathons last year at 75. He's not retiring from cattle ranching until he's 80. Cattle ranching around here means horses, roundups, roping, branding, fence maintenance, etc. Not for the faint of heart or weakness of mind or body.

Another guy, at 94, was up and down a ladder repainting his house. Nobody blinked an eye.

30 years ago, I ran a free introductory programming course through a community association. Ages ranged from 12 to 83 and most of the class was over 60.

That's just neighbours, not any kind of "old and bold" club. Sure, the care homes are overflowing, but that's a supply problem, not a demand problem. Only a relatively small fraction of people will ever see the inside of such a place, except to visit someone.

[–] Maddier1993@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your own generation and our previous generation ruined the planet so much that youngsters nowadays no longer live healthy like you did.

[–] jadero@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I'm well aware of what various generations have done to the planet. I'm not sure what that has to do with the fact that the majority of those who get to 60 with their health intact will continue with their health intact long enough to make checking out early kind of pointless for at least a decade, probably two.

My first comment was with respect to whether 60 could reasonably be considered the end of the line. I would argue that even considering planet fuckery, 60 won't be anywhere near the end of an individual life until the environment is damaged beyond all repair. At that point we'll be looking at human extinction, not just personal extinction.

[–] zoe 1 points 1 year ago

also women with their high maintenance behaviour: price inflated cosmetics that come in not so ecofriendly packaging (both the amount of paperwaste, and the amount of cellulose took to make said paper ) , their non eco-friendly fashion and fast fashion, even the tech industry that sell ewaste iphones for 5 times their worth and creating economic inflation in the process: genders also have different carbon footprints

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