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Hello fellow lemmings! Fedora KDE user here, and quite happy about it, it didn't break a single time and packages are up to date. The only thing that bother me is DNF's speed... a single search may take up to 5 seconds, and if I'm dependency-hunting I may need several searches, summing up the delays. I'm asking if switching to openSUSE Tumbleweed could be a good idea or not. The idea of the rolling release is really intriguing, whole system upgrades always makes me nervous, and zypper, being written in C++, should be faster than DNF.

I would stick to Wayland KDE, as my current fedora setup.

Other than this, I don't see any other obvious pros or cons, so I'm asking you: why should I switch and why shouldn't I? any tips from someone who used both?

thanks in advance!

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[–] rodbiren@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I have been a chronic distro hopper and I have to say Zypper did not appear appreciably faster than dnf for most operations. Fastest package managemer I have ever found is pacman on arch, which is not an advertisement for arch.

I have a love hate relationship with OpenSUSE. Everything they do feels like the uncanny valley of Linux. Just a little different than the others. Sometimes in a good way where everything is autosnspped into backups and the OS is nearly indestructible. Sometimes in confusing ways where their is a bin folder included in you Home folder by default and I haven't found a good way to get rid of it. Or that installing packsge suggestions is on by default. Or that the included Firefox includes branding for OpenSUSE and getting the correct repo of Firefox without branding takes additional effort. It keeps going with the strangeness. It will look and feel like Linux but with just enough quirks to confuse you.

All that being said I highly doubt the package manager will be the time suck you will face with a given distro. Your milage may vary but I have found OpenSUSE to be a great server distro but s lackluster desktop experience especially with drivers and any gaming. So it depends on what you are looking for. The best non answer their is.

[–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

thanks for the answer!

lackluster desktop experience especially with drivers and any gaming

why this? is it needed manual work to install the correct drivers?

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find it to be a perfectly good desktop experience using KDE but I don't play games so can't comment on that. The only driver you typically need to install is the Nvidia one. Talking of that, Nividia drivers can cause the occasional problem when updating because they don't always keep up with the pace of kernel changes. At least you can rollback to a working state easily. On my Intel only machine tumbleweed has been utterly reliable and I haven't needed the rollback facility of snapper and btrfs. It's definitely nice to have though!

On Reddit, I used to see complaints about zypper being a slow package manager and to be fair, when updating it does feel slow. However, I've been using it long enough that I can't compare it to other package managers.

[–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 2 years ago

I don't need NVIDIA driver so I guess I'm okay then!

used to see complaints about zypper being a slow package manager

oh lol this may be a problem XD

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