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[–] Hexagons@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to push back on just one thing you've said, which is that you don't think anyone could change any minds here. That's blatantly false. I have my mind changed all the time, and I've seen it happen with other people on here too. We're willing to have our minds changed and we understand that we're fallible and other people know more than we do about various things.

I think maybe what you meant to say is that you understand that hexbears can't be convinced to go back to being libs. And that's true. I'll never again think that the Democrats are anything other than my enemies. I used to think they were my allies, but I've changed my mind and I see now that they never were and never will be. So in that sense I guess you're right, but politics is so much bigger and more complicated than just red vs blue, elephant vs donkey.

Free yourself from the two-party bourgeois democracy you were born into. You're young, you have so much learning to do and so much time in which to do it! Lurk here and actually read the things people post. I've learned so much from my fellow hexbears and I hope you will too.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I completely agree the two party system is a joke, we'd be much better off with many more parties with differing opinions and ranked choice voting.

[–] Hexagons@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah. My bad, I shouldn't have mentioned "two-party" at all. The issue with our electoral system is that it's a bourgeois electoral system, not that it happens to have two parties.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learned a new word, this also probably explains our opinion differences quite well. I grew up in the middle class and as an adult continue to reside at that level.

All in all the system has treated me well, which I'm well aware is not how most people experience it.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

The system has treated me fairly well as well. But once you see the ugly side of it there's no real going back.

[–] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Actually achieving that in the US is impossible via purely peaceful "within the system" means. It would require a social upheaval, maybe not a blood revolution but at least a long period of nasty civil unrest.