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I can't speak for all of Caucasia but I'm not offended.
I will speak to my fellow caucasians and say, "if you're offended, lighten the fuck up, honky."
He got it wrong though. The shirt should says "CRACKERS".
Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.
Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.
Also not offended by this.
You would be if they had stolen your home and pranced around in a caricature costume of you through the stadium they built after bulldozing your land
Yes, but that's the point. They didn't do that to white people, so white people are in no position to be offended. Including me. Which is why I'm not only not offended, but find that highly appropriate.
What is happening when white people are like "I'm not offended by this" is to minimize the offense that native Americans feel about the same thing.
As if to say "I'm not offended, why are they?"
Me either, but it's actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.
I think the way it works is someone who is not a member of that group tells you it's offensive
The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.
Except redskins is offensive. It's not the name of a group of people, it's an epithet describing them.
It's offensive to gen z victim mentality complex people who want to define themselves through misery.
Were you going to show us this poll or were you just going to expect us to believe that quote of yours isn't one you just made up?
I like to omit the source sometimes just to draw out lazy comments like yours. It really shows that you're not that interested but just want to argue. It's the title of an article from one of the most prominent newspapers out there, it'd be the first result if you simply pasted it in Google, but rather than save yourself the embarrassment, you chose this route.
Swing and a miss.
The article is even better than the title.
Sorry, it's not my job to find out whether or not you're lying.
When you're trying to educate yourself that's exactly your job.
Nope. That's not how the burden of proof works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
From your link:
On top of that, what you're arguing doesn't even meet the criteria for burden of proof, as I've already posted not only the title but also a quote from the article. I've provided proof. YOU made an unfounded claim that it was false. YOU lack the proof that what I've said is a lie when the evidence for what I've said is right there for you and everyone else to see. I'm not obliged to do your leg work because you choose not to accept it. You're just displaying the lazy man's version of moving the goalposts with some arm chair infantile argument. There's toddlers with more well founded tantrums than what you are attempting here.
I still am not seeing a link to an article.
So you spent a whole lot of time insulting me because you claimed you posted a link to an article and, rather than just show me the link even though I've asked you to multiple times, you've resorted to this. I'll just flag you for trolling.
I've never made that claim.
You know what I think? That you realize how much of a fool you've made out of yourself so the only way out is for you to keep digging. I bet you've already seen the article by now and this is just your way of weaseling out of admitting you were wrong.
Flag all you want, deluding yourself about things seems to be your favorite MO!
I still haven't seen any article. You can get as aggressive and insulting as you like, but the fact is I still haven't seen whatever article you're talking about.
You can lead a horse to water..
...but you can't get them to read an article that they can't see a link to.
I mean seriously, I've been perfectly willing to read whatever article you've been talking about this entire time.
This is not about whether I'm lying or not, it's about you preferring to stay ignorant, which proves the point that you don't really care about the subject. If you want to close your eyes and pretend it's nighttime, then it's not my job to convince you otherwise.
Got it. You were lying.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to keep the illusion going. 🤡
I don't know what illusion you are talking about. I know about a delusion. Specifically the delusion that you have where you expect everyone to just believe anything you declare.
You know Google exists right? Or do you only ever expect to be spoon fed knowledge like a child?
Insulting me won't make your lies true. Sorry. And I'm not going to talk to you in two separate threads, so pick one.
Being wilfully ignorant won't make you any more intelligent.
If you don't want to argue in two threads don't be stupid in so many places.
Is this the conversation thread you wish to continue with?
No, it's how educating yourself despite the other person works. I was right, you expect to be spoon fed knowledge like a school age child. You know they teach you how to research in grade school and it doesn't involve begging for sources.
Your choice.
Papaya.
See? Proof of your wilful disdain for knowledge.
Papaya.
Yes, you have lot the argument and have no more valid responses, we know.
Yes, you have lot the argument and have no more valid responses, we know.
What's wrong, did your stupidity run out of steam?
I don't expect people to believe anything I say, I do expect the average adult to not act like a man-baby in a normal conversation. I admit that sometimes bites me in the ass, but I prefer that over willful ignorance.
The article is still there by the way, I bet you've already figured that out but aren't big enough to admit.