as I said to the other guy, I'm not saying not natural is bad. But what op is implying is that getting the same stuff from natural sources is bad. That I just don't agree with. It's just the natural order of things. I have other options, yes, but I don't consider the default natural source of things to be bad, so I don't feel the need to switch. Animals eat animals all the time. And they don't do it "humanely" either.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Animals don't have the options we do. That argument fails.

Plus, that argument could be used to justify rape and murder. Perfectly natural. They don't breed humanely.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What if the animals just ate plants instead?

[–] projectd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Herbivores must, carnivores must not, omnivores with very high level thinking and moral agency is fortunate enough to choose.

[–] m532@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Those factory farmed animals are further away from "natural" than a smartphone