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Anyone have any readings on how to tell if you're some kinda transfem nonbinary sort vs a trans woman with imposter syndrome?
You can be a nonbinary trans woman. Like me! Or my gal pal! Or my parasocial crush Lily Alexandre!
As someone who hasn’t been online enough to see anyone try to invalidate or say that “Binary Trans Women” are inherently conformist or bad, this video kind of makes me angry? I think after watching the whole thing my anger is unfounded though. I know this is rude but if you can clear some things up that would be awesome.
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It feels like Lily dismisses actual real experiences numerous times. Like, non-binary people absolutely ARE subversive of the gender binary, and saying they don’t experience “as much oppression as people who do REAL THINGS like transition” is utter bullshit. Especially because, like Lily herself said, tons of non-binary people transition. I think maybe I just got the wrong impression from this part because the early segments made me think she was defending assimilationism, though I was very wrong (more in next paragraph)Also the only even remotely similar discussion I’ve seen to what this video is talking about is the actively developing transmedicalist / assimilationist movement you can see on Reddit or anywhere white rich trans people congregate, where they try to dismiss any “weird” trans behaviors or ask other trans people to be conformist. Having that as my only real touch point for the video’s discussion makes it feel really weird and dismissive when they never mention those people, even though I logically know they’re talking about some separate terminally online unhinged argument about whether or not trans people who identify at least somewhat with a binary gender are “still subversive” or valid (they are)
She's quoting truscum there. What other reason would a medically transitioning nonbinary person have to say that?
As somebody who has to hide that she's nonbinary from her health insurance because i wouldn't get HRT or surgeries otherwise, i find it hard to frame this as "extremely online". I know that's different in the US, but all of the NB people i know have to hide their identity from at least some of their doctors, in a medical system that gatekeeps every form of gender affirming care behind psychological evaluation. Exclusion of nonbinary people happens all the time, most countries don't even recognize that gender markers outside M and F exist, cis people completely fail to understand my gender, to the point where leaving out the nonbinary part is something i have to do if i don't want to get into a pointless debate, and these rich white trans people do not exist exclusively on reddit, either, they are very insistent on making some irl trans spaces uninhabitable for anybody who isn't trans in the proper way. Oh, also it's my country's current major culture war topic if language being inclusive of nonbinary identities should be made illegal.
Whether at least my own community has my back or actively tries to exclude me absolutely matters in such a context. Why would that be "terminally online"? It has real life consequences all the time, i constantly hear from people in my local community who face specifically enbiephobic discrimination, and the source of that are way too often other trans people.
I actually agree with you in every way, I want to clarify that I’m saying that the video felt like it was dismissing the experience of non-binary people, especially those who medically transition, and while I know that wasn’t the intent (and possibly the opposite of the intent), the implications that non-binary people are actually capitalist stooges made me really uncomfortable.
My concerns are that a significant part of the video feels like it’s dismissing that this is an issue, even though I think it isn’t the intent of the video at all, especially with the parts that explicitly mention it IS an issue, like Lily explicitly saying that non-binary people often DO want to medically transition.
When I mentioned the discussion being “extremely online” I was referring to the theoretical group of non-binary radicals who think “binary trans women” are invalid or evil for merely existing. I have never seen these people and while I’m sure it’s just partially luck, it’s insane to me that someone could genuinely think that “binary trans women” are betraying the movement or something. The video just feels unhinged because it feels like it’s designed to reply to a group that’s I’ve never seen or been around.
Like I want to urge HOW STRONGLY I agree with you here. I’ve identified as non-binary for about a year now, and wanted to present very differently, and I’ve slowly realized all of the systemic shit designed to prevent transition as a non-binary person as I’ve grown more interested in HRT. My fundamental issue is just that I’m reading the video in a paranoid way, and took it as an attack on non-binary people.