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My understanding is this isn't really that big of a deal. Hydrogen fuel cells aren't anywhere near as bad as stuffing lithium batteries in a vehicle at least.
Ultimately doesn't matter tho since hydrogen cars are just PR fluff and a way to snag eco tax breaks or other nonsense. Hydrogen really likes to leak out of everything and it's causes weird corrosion and breakdown of metals. This makes storage and delivery complicated and impractical for both large infrastructure like gas stations and on the individual vehicles in the fuel cell and connection lines.
Works great for zeppelins, though.
Apparently Japan has some decent hydrogen infrastructure. A friend rented a car in Japan and it was hydrogen powered.
Japan wants to import (synthesized with renewables) ammonia to burn in thermal power plants. Their future energy policy is pretty ridiculous. Like, if you're actually considering ammonia power plants then you might as well just build a big solar farm in geosynchronous orbit.
Last I heard JAXA was planning to launch a proof-of-concept for this technology in 2025, dunno if that's still on schedule or not.
Okay go off Japan
Yeah, Hydrogen cars are basically a pet cause of some Toyota executives to my understanding.
the only people I ever see talking about hydrogen are boomers. I think they just can't imagine a world where they operate their car with different expectations & routines than the current world.
You just described the main problems with hydrogen cars. They offer no practical advantage over any typical EV. Typical lithium batteries are around twice as effective as hydrogen fuel cells and don't have any of the complicated problems with storage/delivery/etc. Furthermore the obvious solution is to have fewer cars.
A hydrogen explosion will be much more forceful than a lithium battery fire.
When it comes to hydrogen my worry isn't the cars, it's the gas stations