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[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Soooo much further left. How’s that border wall coming?

Wrt US aid, it literally is nothing, it’s PR nonsense. You CANNOT be left wing and propping up/funding a genocide.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That nothing aid is saving lives. You clearly care more about being smug than helping Palestinians. If it were Trump I guarantee it would be worse.

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You stabbed me once, but the other guy would stab me twice? Wow I gotta vote for the lesser evil. That nothing aid is NOT saving lives as it’s coupled with complete support for Israeli settler-colonialism. It’s not a genuine gesture to help Palestinians, it’s a cynical PR campaign. The way to help Palestinians is to get the US OUT of Palestine.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder if there is a report on how much aid actually makes it to Palestinians. I have seen Israeli settlers blocking trucks, seizing supplies, protected by the IDF.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are we talking about literally dropping aid onto Palestinians and killing them while also funding an army that's committing a genocide against Palestinians? That's not what I call saving lives.

I guess I'm just a smug asshole?

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/08/middleeast/gaza-airdropped-aid-deaths-intl/index.html

The airdropped aid literally killed people, because the US refuses to stand up to Israel and tell them to let aid in other ways.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would you deliver aid in a way that was guaranteed not to kill anyone? Trucks? Nope, those kill people every day. Push carts? Nope, too slow and people would die of exhaustion. Boats? That takes a dock and we're building one. (And people can die that way too.)

I personally don't think Biden has the ability to force Israel to do anything unless he does it through military force, which I don't support. Russia or China would quickly fill the vacuum if the US just pulled out. Ramping up pressure over time maximizes the US's influence over Israel. I think Biden should have ramped it up a lot faster, but it is the most effective strategy.

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Israel is literally a US client state, how do you not think that they could be brought immediately to heel if those in power wished it?

Edit: Sorry, I saw your other posts. You are just the dumbest motherfucker alive.

PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] D61@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Flour Massacre.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

You know what would save Palestinian lives? Making Israel stop their genocide, something Biden absolutely has the power to do. Why isn't he doing it?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here it is, we found it, the molten core of self-delusional liberal fascism

You boneless, bloodless fucks are like those cannibal ghouls in warhammer who live in an Arthurian hallucination and are fully convinced they're noble questing knights

[–] D61@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Flour Massacre.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah the 3.8billion to Israel are sure to help Palestinians. Get over yourself, just admit you're fine with genocide. "Oh this other guy wants to do it even more" isn't a real argument, I'm not voting for the other guy ever, I'm telling the first guy that I might, if he doesn't do genocide.