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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I still maintain that's nonsense. I'm confrontational, argumentative, and often just a real piece of shit online. My patience for people spewing complete stupidity with bold confidence ran out during the covid conspiracy theories. Yet, I greet every stranger with sir and ma'am even ones with fucking Trump hats on or "Biden crime family" bumper stickers. People I would light up on here.

These are different environments and those differences shouldn't be disregarded for the sake of a "gotcha! You're a dick here, there, everywhere - Sam I am"

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So...you're arguing with internet strangers that very likely have 0 influence in your community about extremist views, but letting the people who are actually physically in your presence carry on with those same beliefs and influence those around you.

Isn't that a bit...futile?

Like I'm not saying you have to go out and physically fight people with Trump/Nazi paraphernalia or something, but it's kind of a weird disconnect.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Arguments are never for the benefit of the person you're arguing against as that person likely will not change their mind. I believe there are a few studies that strengthen that claim. So, when I argue with strangers, it's for the benefit of the lurkers who fall somewhere between both of our ideas and are looking for something to push them in a direction. They're willing to hear both sides or are simply entertained at the idea of someone they dislike being verbally flagulated. The people who are physically around me are more than likely not at a point in their lives where they're open to discussion to be convinced out of the positions they hold.

I can't imagine anything more futile than trying to reason with someone who hasn't arrived at their beliefs by using it. However online the best outcome is I convince someone I'm right. At worst, I'm entertainment.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Thanks for taking the time to try to explain it to me, though. I appreciate it all the same.

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