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[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (40 children)

This robs people of their individual context. The UK Prime Ministers wife is Indian and astonishingly privileged. You are suggesting a poor mine worker from Romania is somehow more privileged based on how he looks.

Lumping people into loose categories (particularly based on skin colour) and then prescribing loose values to them is fascist and racist.

[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (16 children)

You are suggesting a poor mine worker from Romania is somehow more privileged based on how he looks.

You misunderstand the concept of privilege. It’s not linear. Intersectionality was devised to solve this exact contradiction.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (15 children)
[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That poor mine worker is still in a better position than an otherwise identical minority would be in the same position.

A poor mine worker is in a tough place but at least he wasn't refused that job because the company doesn't hire non white people.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This exporting US culture shit has got to stop

We aren't talking about another mine worker. We are comparing 2 individuals with certain characteristics. You have instead decided to compare a third individual because the initial comparison made the concept break down

Just because someone is a certain color does not prescribe to them any specific value judgement. As soon as you do that, one of those categories becomes the ongoing scapegoat for everyone's problems, and it becomes fascist.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does it ever occur to you that for your arguments to make sense you have to strip it of all context, historical perspecrive or material reality.

I literally didn't say anything about the us. I'm saying that Romanian is still better off than a minority in Romania that got discriminated again.

Any more reasons for you to smugly ignore everything everybody is repeatedly telling you.

For people who complain about how rude we are and how we're an echo chamber you're being shown an incredible amount of patience for how unbearably obtuse you're intentionally being.

[–] Dra@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

This is precisely the issue that I pointed at before, in reality, not everyone of a certain demographic has an advantage over everyone else of a certain demographic. Its a stupid point to attempt to initiate change because its flawed from the start

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