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[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It honestly feels like this is a cheap rhetorical dismissal because you don’t want to compare what the actual material benefits of socialist revolutions are vs anarchist revolutions.

that's not what you proposed to use as a metric. i'm not sure how to quantify them and, frankly, or what a good measure would be, i guess.

i do know that i don't trust anyone else to decide how i keep myself fed and safe. given the choice in constructing a revolution, i would empower individuals to a maximum degree and destroy concentrations of power wherever they're found.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i do know that i don’t trust anyone else to decide how i keep myself fed and safe.

Thats some right libertarian hyper-individualist hogwash. Stop being alienated from your fellow workers.

i would empower individuals to a maximum degree and destroy concentrations of power wherever they’re found.

So, let's say the workers form Soviets. Those Soviets have to be destroyed, right?

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, let’s say the workers form Soviets. Those Soviets have to be destroyed, right?

it is going to depend, isn't it? are the soviets operated with consent and consensus?

i already explained i have no illusions that i can dictate what it's going to look like after the revolution. i do know what i won't tolerate.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are the soviets operated with consent and consensus?

Is this material to whether the soviet is concentrating power? Either way you have a small group of people making legislative and executive actions.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this material to whether the soviet is concentrating power?

a system that operates with consent and consensus has no authority.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, you need to actually define authority, because I feel like each anarchist I've encountered has a different definition.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know this was lazy. but I think it's good enough.

edit: oh. this is a bit better

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats some right libertarian hyper-individualist hogwash. Stop being alienated from your fellow workers.

i have no problem working with my neighbors. i have big problems with someone tellingme how we should do that.