If doping is allowed, then it's not a plucky little guy compensating for genetic disadvantages against people with optimal builds who are clean, it's the little guy now needing to compete with guys who both have good builds and are also doping, because doping would effectively become mandatory to be competitive. The upstart doesn't get any leveling tool, just another thing he needs to do, this one at the expense of his long term health.

Newsflash the plucky little guy cannot compete in most sports there's a reason why certain nations are able to dominate certain sports and that's because their countries are able to maintain coaches and training programs to be able to get the most out of a person or do you think that for example slavs are only able to produce for example weightlifters but no swimmers? No it's because during the cold war the soviet union and other countries in its sphere had the most sophisticated coaches and training programs. And here's another we can nowadays make a pretty well educated guess that PEDs make up for around 10% higher performance, again this is in strength sports so oly weightlifting, shot put etc., and when we have to hear some american weightlifter complain about doping when they could not even compare to the chinese or russian, iranian etc. weightlifters if we lower their numbers.

Which brings me to the history of doping because guess what during the cold war the USA and the USSR also had a little thing about competing in medals, both nations were doping but it only became a problem when the soviets just absolutely dumpstered the USA which then promptly went 'IOC waaah the soviets are very mean they are doing the unfair'. It's why there's even to this day a ton of just shitty information out there.

Yes, breaking the rules is unfair.

Muh rules based sports order

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What the fuck does "sports without rules" look like to you.

That fucking "no investigation no right to speak" is annoying as it is that's before its paired with the dumbest shit I've read in a week.

Awesome, now every single sport is "who can shoot the other person in the head first"

It's just a way for the smaller less athletic people to level the playing field.

[–] notceps@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

if this is what you got from that comment then i dunno dude, like come on how dense are you I laid out that all the 'controversy' about PEDs stems quite literally from the fact that the USA got beaten at the olympics by the soviets and then after that pushed the IOC to introduce this rule.

I'll repeat it again the rules weren't put up because of the IOC was concerned about the health of athletes, the rules were put up because the USA didn't win enough medals. Talking about it is quite literally a one for one 'muh rules based order' because the rules served and to this day continue to serve western interest, it's the same reason why certain sports are olympic and some are not and why some have like 10 disciplines and some have only one. Again this is not new stuff we just now know about. The influence of the USA on decisions that the IOC has made and is making like nowadays with transgender athletes is incredibly well known and someone going 'well the rules' sets me off because it is clear that person does not know as much and generally just falls back to yankee vibes.

That's literally the point since I guess this shit is hard saying 'breaking the rules' is just lazy and I gave it the same energy. Yanks wrote up 'that specific rule' because they were losing face, it is not just something like 'three strikes you are out' it was as a reaction to the USA not winning enough. So yeah fuck that rule, and fuck going 'Muh rules'

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've seen some dumb over corrections when reflexsively just jumping to whatever the opposite of America says is right but "America doesn't like steroids because the soviets invented them so any attempt to create a level playing field is bougesie obsession with rules" is by far the dumbest most trivial example of that thinking I've ever seen.

Again if we're saying "fuck the rules" how do you have any sort of competition. This is like trying to have a conversation with somebody where the other person refuses to agree to the idea that words have meanings.

If you don't give a shit about rules and following rules makes you a bad socialist or something (again can't even follow your convoluted logic) are you just against the idea of friendly competition.

Because that's why you have rules in sports, it's like the fundamental basis for being able to have any sort of competition.

"Were going to have a foot race but since this person runs all the time and this person never exercises were gonna have one run 10 meters and the other run 100 so they finish at the same time, gotta love sports."

Is your ideal form of sports no matter who competes everybody ties because one person winning and another person losing is western decadence?

[–] notceps@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

How the fuck do you get that from this, like huh? Seriously are you ok? To most people that practice a sport or that are really into a specific sport PEDs are a thing that pretty much every athlete uses. And 'the rules' only get brought up by dipshits, like look at Lance here guy doped and so did everyone else, this isn't news lmao. I'm not saying fuck the rules I'm saying fuck that very specific rule because guess what that rule is why dipshit yanks, which ima guess me saying that sent you into a fit, use to explain why the US can't compete against the Russians, Iranians, Georgians, Chinese etc etc. it is something I've seen 5 years ago over and over and over again.

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