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[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ellie knowing about it in the sequel but still going on her revenge spree was just deranged. Even Tommy should have known that him and Joel had created plenty of people that had just reasons to want them dead.

And honestly I feel like it clashes with the end of the first game? At the end of the first game Ellie leaves off on “I’m pretty sure he fucking killed those people and the only way I can continue to live with myself is to tell myself that isn’t the truth” and then when the consequences of what she knew happened come to pass she suddenly acts like what Joel did was justified and she wasn’t upset by it in the first place and Joel is the victim actually.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Yup, there's also the alternative interpretation

spoilerwhich is Ellie went on her rampage because she was denied closure with Joel over this lie but then it turns out she knew all along and told him she would try and forgive him

The first game had a great story when it was seen as an examination of what was a truly sad and heart breaking ending, in which Ellie was denied doing something good for humanity and Joel was unable to go on without a replacement daughter to live for, i.e. "would you go against the wishes of your replacement goldfish/daughter even though she was fine sacrificing herself for humanity if given the option while also murdering a ton of people". Should honestly have known the dude was a reddit brained author when the second game made the Fireflies all "morally ambiguous".