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[–] solitaire 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Not going to lie, this video is pretty shit.

It was already a rough start but the claim that people didn't say things like "the graphics look incredible" was so ridiculous I had to pause it, especially while simultaneously showing clips from around the 7th gen. We absolutely praised games for their graphics back then (and much earlier), not just in terms of technological advancement over other titles but as things that were visually pleasing even outside of being a game. 7th Gen is actually notable for how aggressive the marketing around graphics became.

We did not, in fact, talk mostly about the stories of games. For a long time video game writing was widely considered unimportant. There were exceptions of course, though this thinking was so wide spread that I think younger gamers might be surprised to find that even RPG stories were often secondary - at best - to the game play for a long time. Story became a much larger feature once voice acting came to prominence in the mid-00s, but it would take awhile to catch on.

The author then states that Assassin's Creed 2 and Black Flag had memorable stories. What? I played both at the time, and had enjoyed both, but their stories were entirely forgettable. The writing of the series was even kind of a punch line at the time. You know the thing people really talked about with Assassin's Creed 2? How cool it was to parkour through such a beautiful recreation of renaissance Italy.

The stuff about how there were no microtransactions back then is nonsense as well. The period he keeps going back to for old games was the rise of this bullshit. Oblivion's horse armor was already years earlier.

The vibe of this video is just an awkward teenager lamenting he wasn't born in his imagined version of an earlier time.

The disappointing thing is, I do actually prefer older games. I think there is a wealth of interesting discussion about the things that were done differently. This video just isn't it.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

The time he's taking about was during a time when people were lamenting DLC and other things. The 7th gen (which is a part of the modern era of games as far as I'm concerned) was the beginning of all the things wrong with modern games. The monitsation, the "grizzled white dude" BS, and the push towards US military propaganda. Fuck the 7th gen.

[–] solitaire 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

(which is a part of the modern era of games as far as I’m concerned)

Yeah I was ready to shake my fist at the the idea these were "old" games, but in fairness we're talking about 15 years ago. It's entirely possible the creator of the video wasn't even born yet when Oblivion was released. It's way longer than we used to give games before we considered them old, though I think that's a result of how rapid obvious progress was - which has slowed down drastically.

Him fawning over the Witcher 3 as an old game from another era cracked me up though.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's entirely possible the creator of the video wasn't even born yet when Oblivion was released.

what-the-hell this makes my back ache

[–] solitaire 4 points 2 years ago

Oblivion is about to turn 18 lol

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