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How is Ukraine’s counter-offensive going so far? (www.reuters.com)

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[–] romkube@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

you say these losses, while the same time you throw around with "significant numbers" being confirmed on telegram. While I'm sure the UAF has had losses, the numbers you are throwing around is on par with Russia claiming it destroyed all 44+ HIMARS launchers. You need to back your claims more than just "trust me, bro!"

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm saying significant numbers have been confirmed by western media, here's just one example:

A group of Ukrainian soldiers taking a break from the fighting just outside the small town of Orikhiv, in the southern region of Zaporizhzhia, told AFP they had lost most of their Bradleys.

Of nine vehicles attached to the group's mechanised infantry unit -- not the only one involved in the battle -- six were wrecked, three damaged but reparable, and one was unscathed.

This information isn't exactly hard to find, so not sure why you're acting like I'm saying something outlandish here.

[–] romkube@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Of nine vehicles attached to the group's mechanised infantry unit -- not the only one involved in the battle -- six were wrecked, three damaged but reparable, and one was unscathed.

So that would be the same images that's been doing the rounds over the last week, but its far from your initial claim that

They lost a significant percentage of their western gear and thousands of people in this attempt so far.

Stop trying to make it out to be more than it is. They lost 6 vehicles pushing through a minefield, I cant say if that's good or bad, but we know from video's taken from the actual point of view that the crew of the damaged Bradley's survived and was evacuated. We also know some of them are being repaired

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So that would be the same images that’s been doing the rounds over the last week, but its far from your initial claim that

That's just one example, once you learn how google works you can see plenty of other similar stories in western media. Every time Ukraine does a push they lose multiple tanks and IFVs, this is documented. This has been going on for over two weeks now. Anybody capable of doing basic math can figure out that these numbers are in fact significant. Ukraine only got 60 or 80 leopoards, if they already lost 10% of that before even getting to the first line of defence that's obviously not going well. The fact that you keep pretending this isn't significant is pretty amazing to be honest.

[–] romkube@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thats alot of text without any further evidence

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

Feel free to spend the time to figure out how google works instead of trolling here.