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WSJ: Ukraine could be forced to compromise. With support for the war against Russia waning in the U.S., the counteroffensive may define a new border. (archive.ph)
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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, that is a form of a tu quoque fallacy western liberals like to use to shut down criticism of the west and create a double moral standard.

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"i know you are but what am i?" is not an effective form of argument.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not the argument being made, but I guess we've already established that your reading comprehension needs work.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Moving the Goalposts

Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt. The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the result is changed, too.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Be specific what goal posts you claim to have been moved. I'll wait.

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sealioning

Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate", and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called "the most apt description of Twitter you'll ever see".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Yes, you have sealioned into my post.