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Italy is a social construct (i.redd.it)
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[–] RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm Italian and can confirm. People even started actually using "standard" Italian(mostly with some remnants of their previous local languages/dialects) in everyday speech only after the inception of TV. The patriot Massimo D'Azeglio said "After making Italy, we need to make Italians", and the (state controlled) TV did this.

EDIT: It was D'Azeglio, not Garibaldi.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

This is also why the stereotypical NJ Italian-American pronunciation of things sounds so unlike Italian.

It's not that Americans somehow turned "pasta e fagioli" into "pasta fazool". They turned "pasta e fasule" into "pasta fazool", which is a much smaller leap.

[–] loudwhisper 10 points 1 year ago

That quote is from D'Azeglio, not Garibaldi.