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They were just champing at the bit for an excuse to get more racist. I can't believe the utter heel turn with their border rhetoric

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1bauos4/biden_says_he_regrets_using_term_illegal_as_trump/?sort=controversial

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[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (42 children)

I am aware of the different meanings of liberalism; it just makes no sense to me (in this context) to interpret "libs" in that way. Who cares if conservatives are doing mask-off racism in a political thread? They always do that. And of course I agree that progressives are racist in "acceptable" ways, but that would be another way of saying mask-on racism. And while progressives sometimes do straight up mask-off racism, that's not something I saw in the comment thread. In any case, just because someone identifies as progressive or espouses progressive beliefs in one area does not mean all of their beliefs are progressive or hold in line with what most other progressives think.

I also just think it's misguided


except in specific circumstances


to use the term "liberal" to mean something different than it is commonly understood to mean. But I should have been more aware that on hexbear people are more likely to mean it in the academic sense.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Friend the definition we use is not simply an "academic meaning" IT IS THE DEFINITION

Anything else is political illiteracy, no doubt reinforced through pop culture or Internet memery. Do you see how you've twisted yourself into knots trying to divide and catalog the mindsets between those so-called conservatives, "liberals", and progressives? It's pointless they're all subspecies of the same ideology, the liberals in that thread are not violating some sacred progressive liberal value with their racism, nor are they tapping into some inherent conservatism that invalidates their liberalism, it's all tactical differences not fundamental ones

They are simply liberals doing what liberals have always done, dividing and demoralizing the working class in defense of a pro-capitalist status quo and racism has always been a favored tool; of course many of them are also politically illiterate and are simply doing it out of a sort of social muscle memory, but end of the day they're still liberals

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Prescriptivism is bullshit, the definition of a word is how it is used and how the word is used is its definition. Even if it isn't, the dictionaries I've looked at give multiple definitions for the word.

you’ve twisted yourself into knots trying to divide and catalog the mindsets... It’s pointless they’re all subspecies of the same ideology

Maybe I'm just so indoctrinated that the knots and twists don't feel all that knotty or twisty. I just disagree that it's pointless to make note of these divisions. Some people are trying to make the world a better place, and some people are trying to make it worse.

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Some people are trying to make the world a better place,

Communists

and some people are trying to make it worse.

Liberals

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