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In the Bibles defense, it didn't just rain:
So, like, most of the water probably came from underground, not from the rain. Though I'd imagine both were pretty bad.
Not saying the story is true or anything. Just pointing out the straw man, since the Bible doesn't claim all the water was from rain.
If the Black Sea theory is correct, it wasn't even a global flood, but it would have seemed like the end of the world for anyone caught in it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis
Wasn't it likely the end of the ice age?
Isn’t that about 10,000 years before that?
The Red Sea flood makes way more sense (ha). Especially when you consider what peoples’ sense of “the whole world” was at the time.
Though some thinkers did already know the circumference of the earth, which make Judaism and Christianity sound even more ass backwards when you consider it all.
If you look into flood myths, there are also hypotheses involving comet or asteroid impact flooding, which could have happened at many other times.
By the time the Greeks determined the circumference of the earth, this flood would already have been a legend and a fading cultural memory. It almost definitely would be oral history and not recorded in any physical form. What proof could anyone have that it didn't cover the whole world?
Not knowing about glaciation or interplanetary objects it would be extremely hard for the people of the era not to have decided that some spiteful god had tried to wipe out the entire earth.
The last ice age ended 10,000 years ago, so 8,000 BC, which kind of makes sense considering the Biblical timeline.
How is the earth's circumference relevant to Christianity?
He's implying the writer of Genesis should have known that the flood only covered their area instead of writing the whole world. Because someone in Greece already calculated the circumference of the earth at the time.
Either way the great flood is not just documented in the Torah which is interesting, and if findings are reported as true, it's not the first documentation of the flood.
Regardless, what was written and how the actual events transpired doesn't break the writings or purpose of them in Christianity/Judaism
The thing is, even if accounts of the flood was written before the Torah was written, it just further shows that it did happen. The earth's circumference was measured in 240bc by the greeks. Which is long after the flood no matter who you ask.
Oh I wouldn't know about the earth's circumference being measured. The comment about calling Christianity backwards because of some "enlightened" idea that there were mathematicians during the time of (in their eyes) "magic" being reported is insensible. Atheists will atheist.
Yeah. Another thing is that the word used "erets" doesn't always necessarily mean the whole world. If you consider where Eden was likely located (underneath the persian gulf) it would have definitely looked like a global flood of some kind to Noah. I think to say "Bible disproven because I take the flood account fully literally" is a bit silly.