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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm saying that you can't "pick up a gun tomorrow" in order to topple the whole system and even that requires action and force.

You have to build a movement, build dual power, etc. It's a long process. It's not about everyone just "stopping what they're doing right now."

Idk, maybe I'm being pedantic lmao

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we're both being doomer. My point is our society has the ability to eradicate poverty; but decides not to. You're saying we cant make that happen currently. I agree.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, sorry if I come off as pedantic or argumentative.

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good faith conversation is always a win.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should clarify what I'm saying: it's not a problem of "society" (which puts the onus on the average proletarian) but the mode of production and the bourgeois power structure.

I think we will get rid of it eventually.

To me, it's not a matter of if, but when.

But I understand what you're saying and I'm sorry if you're feeling down.

But I think that the situation is not hopeless and so I don't mean to come off as being a "doomer."

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Thank you. Not feeling down; I just think its something I forget to remember and others may benefit from a reminder. It doesnt have to be like this. We can do better. Also yes onus is on the Proletariat

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also yes onus is on the Proletariat

Wait, are you joking? fry That is the opposite of what Pluto said...

My cave was run by union shadow puppets.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Err yeah, but it might have been a mistake on his part when they typed it.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Alright, well, I've said my piece.