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[–] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's dumb because it's done wrong. indoeuropean cases are just stupid as fuck.

look at how it works in hungarian or finnish, those are sensible systems.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't Finnish the language with 38 verb tenses or something mad like that?

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Järjestelmällistyttämättömyydelläänsäkäänköhän

Translation

the unsystematic nature of the system

Järjestelmä is system everything else is added on top of that

[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New punk band name dropped

[–] huf@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

more like 15-20 i think, but yeah. but they're far more regular and behave more like prepositions do in english.

the worst part of IE cases isnt that there's so many of them (there arent, the most ever is like 8-9 and that's in ancient languages i think), it's that each little case marker means a multitude of things at once. see above how it ending in -i means it's one of multiple possibilities, and each time that lone little -i is marking both case and number together.

so for the above Dative example, hungarian would have (contrived, yes, i know):

Odaadta a lovat a Brutusznak - He/She gave the horse to Brutus. Odaadta a lovat a Brutuszoknak - He/She gave the horse to the Brutuses.

the -nak signifies the dative (more or less). the -(o)k is the plural. so a plural in dative is -oknak. it's not some third thing, it's just a concatenation of the individual suffixes marking number, case, etc.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Cases for nouns, not verb tenses.