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It's because a fundamental ideology of 12 step programs is that 'addict' is a fundamental and unchangeable characteristic of a person - "once an addict always an addict". It is not a set of behaviours or a state of being it is a basic attribute of a person that is revealed by substance abuse. It's how they rationalize that others are able to use while setting boundaries, but to them using is the same as relapsing. It's how they justify telling people they have no power or agency and asking them to submit fully to a 'higher power'. They are basically religious groups, with a thin veneer of secularism in that they don't insist on any specific higher power.