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A lot of questions on here are aimed at the reddit users experiences, but I've been wondering what the older users thought of his move. Are there any reddit cultures you are hoping do not come with the users? Are you confident or fearful of the growth coming from the reddit community? I'm curious how the reddit influx is changing these communities either for better or for worse.

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[โ€“] comfy@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

While I had this issue a whole year ago, it's intensified a lot these last weeks: People just don't want to lurk and understand the place. I see people calling communities "subreddits", not reading the rules or basic purpose of the site before signing up and posting and complaining when they get banned, someone asking completely off-topic things in /c/linux, people reacting to titles and not reading the post, people commenting without reading other comments. Especially people coming from popular subreddits and streams where being perfectly redundant is acceptable. If you agree with something and have nothing valuable to add, use the voting instead of burying it! That, and the extra aggression we've seen, especially with people getting culture shock from the politics but just in general.

It's a general attitude of arrogance or uncurious ignorance and it's hard not to be offended, especially when some of us came here, in part, to get away from that culture.

Also, the normalization of pro-capitalist attitudes is a huge bummer. A non-trivial chunk of people trying to rationalize Reddit's actions as 'just a bad CEO' is unfortunate to see, that narrow-sighted denial of systematic factors and of what makes this ecosystem act differently, it's unfortunate especially on lemmy.ml which until recently was explicitly anticapitalist.

Again, this isn't completely new, but it's suddenly become a huge issue which may no longer be manageable without either mass action calling out inconsiderate attitudes, or harsh moderation.

[โ€“] SQL_InjectMe@partizle.com 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Do you think open source and free information for all mindsets can't also believe in capitalism? If lemmy.ml was explicitly anticapitalist but they lost their identity due to the flood of new users like me then that's regretable, but I wonder if you just don't want capitalists on decentralized services or not.

[โ€“] vodnik@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think most hackers, at least in the past, were anarcho-capitalists or crypto-anarchists.

[โ€“] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I'd say most hackers were anarchic full-stop. Most probably without any analysis of economic systems, merely a distaste for rules or authority. It's intrinsic in the act of hacking.

There is certainly a huge influence from (socialist) anarchists, such as zine culture and other punk influence, and rejection of intellectual property (e.g. piracy). "Anarcho-capitalism", as far as I can interpret, is founded on a respect for property and non-aggression. Hacking is possibly the opposite.

Cyberpunk culture, especially historically but even today despite recuperation, is a direct critique of capitalism-without-government, or where the corporate has become the government, depicting it as a dystopia.

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