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[–] Damaskox@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Could someone ELI5 what this comic is about?

[–] random9@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

In the US if you give a politician money in exchange for voting against a bill, it's illegal (it's called "quid-pro-quo" in lawyer terms)

But if you just donate money to the politician, his family, or his campaign, without requesting anything - and then he "coincidentally" happens to vote against the bill which you didn't want, it is perfectly legal.

Basically, many politicians are regularly doing something clearly unethical and corrupt in a technically "legal" way.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is why the spirit of the law is more important than the letter of the law.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but you literally can't prove most of these are bribery. The whole point of donating to a campaign is to support someone you agree with. That politician may vote the same way, whether you support them or not. The "support" is meant to get them into office to do things you want.

The real problem is illegal cooperation between candidates and their superpacs and no meaningful limits on donations to superpacs. Citizens United allowed unlimited donations. Without this, bribery would be very hard. You would have to literally give them money or houses (like Clarence Thomas), or jobs to their family (also Clarence Thomas).

With real campaign finance limits you could directly tell a politician "I want to bribe you" and they would ignore it. Most police officers don't take bribes because the risk of losing their nice jobs is too great.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the point, the letter of the law means you have to meet a set criteria to prove it. The spirit of the law can look at it and go 'hey you got this donation, and proceed to act in this corporate interest' and see the pattern of abuse is acting against the conceptual idea of not being able to be bribed.

Without this, bribery would be very hard. You would have to literally give them money or houses (like Clarence Thomas), or jobs to their family (also Clarence Thomas).

So very easy in other words.

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