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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How many DUIs do you give out to people who blow a 0.0? If a driver refuses to blow standardly a blood test is allowed/offered. It is only admissable in court if performed by a medical professional. Which means if they just asked her to blow and it was a 0.0... and they still didn't believe her, taking her to a hospital instead of jail would be the logical next step to have the blood test performed where a health professional may have had a shot at catching said health issues.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They’ll never agree to waiting on the results of a blood test. Not that i disagree with the premise, but the police will strike if we say they can’t just arrest people willy nilly

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The arrest already occurred, they transport from the arrest to the hospital. They are still under arrest during that time. That's how DUI/DWIs work, they put you in the back and drive you to the station/jail/hospital

Although I did watch someone drive and tbone a car leaving the parking lot (perpindicular strike on a car going 45mph+) after being told she can't drive. And they let her husband come pick her up from the accident scene. ~45 min drive for the husband to get there. Some people get treated differently.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When cops go on strike, pretty much nothing interesting happens. Cops don't actually stop crime, they just show up after the fact and make arrests.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But the crime rates go up when the cops stop arresting people and stop showing up to court. My city just got done with a silent protest with our police last year because they didn’t like the DA holding them accountable. Their response was to just stop working basically, ridiculous and our city suffered for it

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've heard the exact opposite claim concerning a police strike in NYC. Crime went down during that strike, let's call it a mixed bag overall.

Now, granted, long term the police can't help but exist. They might be called enforces, thugs, the army, imperial guard, whatever, but there will always be people employed to enforce the will of the dominate power structure. You start to get real philosophical about what crime even is when you try and completely erase the police, but in day-to-day context, they do little to stop crime, their effect is much more institutional.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That’s interesting it went down in NYC, here it was definitely worse for that time they were on strike. Organized theft rings hitting parking lots of every event, shootouts at bars nightly, drag races downtown at night, everything went to shit and the cops just refused to do anything for any crime less than murder

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't have to be intoxicated on alcohol.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

So then you agree a blood test would be needed. (To detect any other drugs, all of which are not admissable in court if not done by a health care professional, aka arresting someone for no reason if not performed)

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

I don't. It depends on state law. In some states, the act of being inebriated while driving may be enough. There may be additional penalties for alcohol, but showing proof of the substance may not be needed if you can document being in a state that you shouldn't be driving in.