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In this episode of What the Fuck America, a retired army kernel goes head to head with a lifelong fed. Colonel Tucker declares before the court that...

spoiler...NATO 5.56 and/or (?) 0.223 caliber ammo can decapitate or split the upper body from the lower in a single shot. To support this claim, he makes up a story about a marine and then describes the Iraqi children he saw torn in half.

Did this hero just self report? It also turns out that your average lifelong war criminal doesn't really even need to know how guns work lmao

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (34 children)

damn the "tumbling" myth just keeps on chuggin'

I bet this guy talks about "stopping power" and thinks his .45 1911 is the apogee of small arms technology

[–] showmustgo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

those guys would also tell you that mustaches and full beards are tactically superior to being clean shaven in a kinetic environment

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is this just some dork making things up or did this actually happen? I know there were military orders for fancy 1911s that solved none of the problems of the 1911 back in the day, decades after the wonder-9s were perfected.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing that kind of makes sense is they wanted a quiet suppressed pistol caliber and .45 fits the bill better than 9mm, so you slap threaded barrels onto the 1911s that are on the rack

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago
[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, if you're a fan of antiques roadshow. Me, I like cutting edge Czechnology.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Ok yes the CZ Shadow 2 is a babe

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Using a pistol is probably more a function of gun length while indoors. You are less maneuverable if you have to fit a rifle through a doorway, for example

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he's a Marine he's probably referring to MARSOC, which issued 1911s as standard long after the Corps itself had switched to 9mm. IDK what they issue nowadays though.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

MARSOC is pretty much in line with other special operations units now, but honestly you’d be surprised how many units used 1911s back then because it was tacticool

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It did happen back then, but mostly because people really hadn’t figured out how to do cqb until well after falluja. To put it in perspective falluja was the largest urban combat operation in history since Vietnam (Saigon I think?). You didn’t need to know how to enter a room until then pretty much.

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