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Love it. People look at me like I'm crazy for trying to go greener, and I see this stuff online all the time.
"Haha EVs are so dangerous! Look at the fire hazard" like you aren't literally parking a tank of explosive gas in your house every night
"It doesn't have nearly the range of gas" They say while driving a massive truck that needs filling every week, meanwhile my charger at home is needed once a week and costs 1/6th a tank of gas
"Solar doesn't even cover the entire electric bill" Sure, it only halves it...
So much simping for big oil companies. Always reminds me of this from the Simpsons
This is an informal fallacy, "letting perfect be the enemy of good." You have to feel out people who are doing this and try to determine what their angle is. Usually they have one, some kind of asinine hobby-horse or ulterior motive, and you need to figure out quickly if they're arguing in good faith or not.
Because usually they're not, and inevitably you'll find that as soon as you're done addressing one point they've moved the goalposts somewhere else.
I just heard this phrase, and I'm so happy because I've needed a word for it. People who do this annoy me so much. Like with EVs especially. "Well we should be using mass transit_." Yes, we should, but that will take a very long time. Let's take a good solution now, which is better than the bad solution that is currently being used, and we will continue to build and push for the perfect solution at the same time.
Strive for perfect, but accept a good solution in the meantime.
But it's not a good solution. In fact it's not a solution at all. EVs aren't going to save the environment, they're going to perpetuate our reliance on personal vehicles.
Oh my god, that's literally the point of the whole comment. You are offering a perfect solution, while the only alternative you offer is a bad solution. EVs are not perfect. They are an okay solution that is better than remaining on ICE.
That was literally the point. Small towns with populations of <10,000 are not going to build rail in the next decade. I would love for them to, but they're not going to! So you're solution for them to get to town where groceries are is to... continue using ICE while sitting on their hands waiting for rail/bus service that is not coming? If that's your best solution then it's not a solution.
Oh my go that's literally the point of my whole comment. You stated that EVs are a good solution. They are not a solution at all.
It's not a matter of perfect being the enemy of good, it's a matter of people mistakenly thinking that personal EVs are a solution. They are not a solution at all, they only serve as placebo to make people feel good while while continuing the same habits and relying on the same infrastructure that caused all this in the first place.
That was literally the point. Continuing with the same sprawling, oversized infrastructure built for personal, usually single-occupancy vehicles is not going to solve climate change. We are so far gone the only real, actual, solutions are in fact drastic, society changing measures. So your solution is for us to keep doing the same thing we already are but with 20% less pollution? While the earth is already past the 1.5C global warming mark? If that's your best solution then it's not a solution.
EVs are here to save the automobile, not the environment.
We are always going to need some cars, even with the best public transit available.
Builders, for example, need to transport their supplies to construction sites, etc.
I think thats where EVs are going to be a solution, and in the meantime they can be a stopgap to reduce emissions while improving the infrastructure.
Some EVs are pretty good solutions. They're just not cars. They're trains and bikes.