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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Typographical errors aside, are you proposing any actual solutions or just trying to discourage people from voting?

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh no, far from that. Vote Biden all the way (I’m not voting cause I am not an American and not in the US).

But I think that higher levels of political participation would have prevented this in the first place, as it would probably mean that waaaaay better candidates would come out of both parties (and eventually new ones)

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to think people who voted party above politics were the worst kinds of people. Then Trump won a term and I realized that while party politics were extremely stupid, we have a responsibility to do damage control. Failing to do damage control will result in someone with the IQ of a candy bracelet becoming leader of the free world and doing exactly what you think he'd do with that power.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

Failing to do damage control will result in someone with the IQ of a candy bracelet becoming leader of the free world and doing exactly what you think he'd do with that power.

I love this metaphor - after taking a moment to consider whether it's unfair to candy bracelets...

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbf voting is a scam thanks to the electoral college

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Less the electoral college and more because of faithless electors.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How many faithless electoral have ever happened in history?

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Out of the tens of thousands of electors in history, there's been just over a hundred faithless electors.

And, to quote from your link:

They have never swung an election

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They have never swung an election

And the source for that comment is a Newsweek article by Alexandra Hutzler that has no cited sources. I guess this is why we don't use Wikipedia in school.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fair enough, I was just rolling with what you brought.

Does CNN work better? Or CBS?

I think I would agree with you on a lot: faithless electors should be legislated out of existence and the electoral college sucks. Where I disagree is that I don't think this is significant enough to discourage voting. Faithless Electors are more of a trivia question than anything meaningful to American politics.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I'm not discouraging voting I'm just saying that the electoral college is a problem, faithless electors are and can be a big part of that problem, and they need to be addressed. Even if they haven't swung an election all on their own yet, they have the ability to. I personally also don't like the idea of votes being weighed differently because of the state you live in and it's frustrating to see things like the popular vote not line up with the winner of the election.

[–] Pinklink@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Let’s not do this. Pretty simple solution honestly.