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[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This argument applies to current technology at its scale. It's not a fundamental physical limitation. However we do not have time to leap to the next level.

[–] i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. Entropy increases in a closed system, but we keep receiving low-entropy energy from the sun.

By this argument, sustainable energy is solar powered.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, but current sustainable energy sources arguably can't sustain even themselves and their support base. We can do better, but not soon and only by continuing the R&D process.