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[–] SUMATRAN_RAT@lemmy.world 188 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The gaslighting bothers me the most. “The soft landing worked! The economy is great! Look at all these jobs!” Are they good jobs? Do they pay enough to live? Why has the price of everything gone up so much? It’s eerie being lied to on such a massive scale like this. Very much a superb example of “don’t piss in my ear and tell me it’s raining.”

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 84 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's purposeful. The system is collapsing and the only option they have is to lie to people to convince them to continue participating.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

"you now have to spend more money to survive" -> "people are now spending more money" -> "the GDP is going up" -> "the economy is doing well!"

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The CPI is not the economy, the stock market is not the economy, wages and unemployment are not the economy, there is no one measure that effectively captures what's happening with the economy.

[–] Quexotic 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This exactly, and the people making policy are so far out of touch that they don't even have a friend of a friend that's as impacted as we are by this insane inflation.

Worst thing is, we weren't getting cost of living increases before inflation went batshit.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, they are out of touch, but don't believe for a second that they don't know what they're doing.

For example, why would a politican regulate the housing market and bolster tenants' rights when they and a bunch of their buddies are making bank?

[–] Quexotic 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago

There is the Consumer Sentiment Index which at least tries to quantify what people are feeling about the economy. According to the recent report, 48% of consumers expect bad times in the year ahead for business conditions, which is down from the high of June 2022 when 79% of consumers expected challenging times ahead for the economy.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 years ago

Since the Great Depression (about a century ago!) The US government has been fudging the numbers so that the economy looks better than it is. Inflation, unemployment, wages, etc. are qualifed with modifiers (because why count anyone who stopped looking for work?).

The system intends to gaslight us and convince us the economy is doing great. We're down on our luck, or we suck and deserve to be on the brink of homelessness and starvation.

After all, if our government was transparent with us, we might see it's not all because of corporate greed and anticompetitive markets. We might realize regulatory capture has real consequences. We might pressure the government to actually serve the pubic and install some effective social safety nets. And then the companies would have to pay us living wages for short work weeks and provide a non-toxic, non-hazardous work environment.

And our plutocrats won't have that.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago

Exactly. There may be a numerous jobs, but do they pay well?