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I'm personally all for letting people decide if they should vote, but it's entirely Biden's fault that people don't want to vote for him.

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[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My man won't even defend abortion without mincing words.

Libs have really been taking sick pleasure lately in the idea that the ungrateful will be punished by their enemies. This cycle has really brought the goodcop/badcop routine into stark relief.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I had the correct read on the situation, but I felt like punishing the ungrateful working class people was why Sinema seemed so exuberant when voting against a minimum wage increase. At the time, the narrative I was getting from the liberals around me (drunk on CNN and msnbc bullshit) was that Trump was president because of a mixture of Russian intrigue and the inherent stupidity of people that are also poor. As usual, there was no class based analysis, no recognition that lots of poor people don't even vote, and definitely no distinction between rural working people and petty bourgeois tyrants using working class aesthetics. These liberals somehow came away with the idea that American politics are actually controlled by people living in collapsing trailers, so punishing them by withholding a higher minimum wage was a good thing to do.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

American Liberals seem to hold pretty much everyone in that same regard because almost everyone is an enemy in potential. With Liberalism imploding away, Liberals hold that both leftists and republicans should die for 'voting against their interests'. An actual fascist demanding mass murder is in that sense not at all different from a socialist who demands that the right to abortion be codified in law - because the corollary there is that once the Liberal Party refuses to do so it must be punished.

This leftist belief is in accordance to what Liberals ostensibly want and believe in, both in the sense of wanting abortion codified and trust in representative democracy. So the only way for Liberals to square that hole is to twist everything into itself. It's not that Biden is a genocidal maniac who was once one of the people in charge of a Liberal Supermajority that did absolutely nothing. It's that the political opponents of the Liberal Party are too dumb to understand politics.

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The "voting against their own interests" line is so bankrupt. They're currently arguing people should vote for the dude supporting a genocide on their families.

..and regularly get persuaded by pundits not to pick a candidate who aligns with their ideals because that "wouldn't have broad appeal."

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Liberal Supermajority that did absolutely nothing

The parliamentarian's tyranny knows no bounds