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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My friend it was never about NATO. There is no prospective out there based in fact where NATO has anything to do with it.

[–] trebuchet@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The British news outlet The Guardian: "Many predicted Nato expansion would lead to war. Those warnings were ignored."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

[–] Skua@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

By "the Guardian" here what you mean is "an opinion piece from the fucking Cato Institute"

It was an excellent question, and neither the Clinton administration nor its successors provided even a remotely convincing answer.

The answers are South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Transnistria

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Russia said since 2014 this was about NATO. Even before they protested strongly the NATO expansion. So how can it not be about NATO? You're either completely uninformed or lying.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You have the media literacy of a fly. Not even Russia supporters believe this is about NATO.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Uh… yes, we do? I mean not only about NATO, but definitely also about NATO. Even liberals like Jeffrey Sachs and radlibs like Noam Chomsky and undead ghouls like Henry Kissinger agree.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's an element but anyone saying the war was started because of NATO is clearly bullshitting. Now if you were to ask why the war is still going on despite both sides wanting peace, NATO is a pretty succinct and accurate explanation.

[–] NaibofTabr 1 points 2 years ago

since 2014

You mean since they invaded Crimea and had to invent some narrative to justify their military conquest?

[–] mashbooq 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and US fascists say banning trans people is about protecting children. only a fool believes the narrative of a fascist

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Well if you insist on not taking Russia seriously - then you must be very pleased with the result. Maybe you should call Putin a Hitler a few more times, that will solve everything :D