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ID: A screenshot of a twitter post, by faith (@girlcel_)

woke Batman: that's the difference between you and me, kid; I have a code - i NEVER misgender my enemies, that'd make me as bad as them. it ain't right

Transfem Nightwing: you called me bro 2 hours ago

woke Batman:[yelling] bro is Gender Neutral dude, you fucking Words Fascist

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I don't think many trans people think dude is gender neutral.

My go to when cis guys say it is has always been "Do you fuck dudes then?"

More often than not trans people put up with it among friend groups purely because they've been terrorised into not complaining out of fear of losing the few social groups they have left, giving the false impression to some who "have a trans friend that's ok with it" that it's fine, when in reality they quietly would prefer otherwise.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My go to when cis guys say it is has always been "Do you fuck dudes then?"

Yes.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes that's fine but most of these people aren't gay/bi lmao

I'm bi but mostly date women.

But I used to call my most serious ex "dude" all the time

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My go to when cis guys say it is has always been "Do you fuck dudes then?"

i used to know a dude i was interested in but they were aro/ace so there's some subset of dudes i'd be into but my partner attraction is heavily informed by typical secondary characteristics and i'm agender myself so i'm not even sure how to usefully label my orientation.

I would address my cis-afab partner and her girlfriends sat at a table as "hey dudes" some portion of the time instead of "hey guys", so you tell me if that means i was fucking a dude. i'm not a language doctor but it seems like some usages are contextually gender neutral and others aren't. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

some usages are contextually gender neutral and others aren't

I can agree with this. Issue is that, for trans people that are also a little twitchy about it, those contextually gender-neutral situations lose their contextual neutrality.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

and of course it can be use aggressively to invalidate, like neutral pronouns.